Im looking for a little advice about DSL circuits in New York, specifically at 111 8th Ave.
Going to locate a console server there for out-of-band serial management.
The router will need connectivity for remote telnet/ssh access from the NOC.
Looking for a low speed (and low cost) DSL line with a fixed IP.
I searched some obvious providers but dont really want to deal with a huge company (Verizon, Qwest, ?) if it can be avoided.
Also $80-100+ seems a lot for something that will be used very rarely, but maybe those prices are normal.
Are there smaller/independent companies out there offering this sort of thing?
I dont know much about the US DSL market, so any hints are welcome.
You can get a CLEAR WiMAX fixed modem with static IP address for $50
(USD) monthly, or less if you opt for the low-bandwidth plan.
Unscientific testing shows there's good coverage throughout most of
the building, and no obvious shared risks from an IP or transport
prospective. As an added bonus, you won't have any cross-connect opex
to worry about.
+1 for the clear stuff. I've spent the last couple of weeks doing
extensive 3g/4g testing, and been incredibly impressed with Clear. (I'm
doing video conferencing over it).
You can get a CLEAR WiMAX fixed modem with static IP address for $50
(USD) monthly, or less if you opt for the low-bandwidth plan.
I wouldn't dare rely on something of that nature for a lifeline connection. I'd spring for the extra $30/mo. It's expensive, but there ain't nothin' like a physical cable when it's 3AM on a Sunday.
For me it depends; if the OOB is related to some other physical cable
that the OOB is for, wireless might have a better chance of still
working if there's a cable cut.
AFAIK all DSL providers will end up going through Verizon wires, you are
just shifting customer service & billing. Alternatives are the Cable Co,
probably Time Warner, or, more expensively, http://www.towerstream.com/
phys plant is good, nesscy but not sufficant for lifeline.
for lifeline - your only option is regulated wireline service
w/o any dependance on external power. regulated telco voice
service has a requirement for self-power - usually in the range of
12+hours. Not the 90min batteries in most cell towers.
Im looking for a little advice about DSL circuits in New York,
specifically at 111 8th Ave.
Going to locate a console server there for out-of-band serial management.
The router will need connectivity for remote telnet/ssh access from the NOC.
How much bandwidth do you need? Is a dialup modem fast enough?
Traditional phone lines often give you a much different set of
reliability issues and common-mode failures than Internet
connectivity, which is good.
I've been very happy with Pushkablue's dialup out-of-band boxes, which
give you a serial console and power supply relays.
Similarly, if wireless works in the part of the building you're in,
and if the building allows you to have equipment that transmits radio
signals (some colos don't), that's another option, again, because it's
going to have different failures than the equipment you're
controlling.
I searched some obvious providers but dont really want to deal with a
huge company (Verizon, Qwest, ?) if it can be avoided.
...
Are there smaller/independent companies out there offering
this sort of thing?
I dont know much about the US DSL market, so any hints are welcome.
If you don't know the market, then there's a whole lot of value
in dealing with the two or three dominant players for that city,
or the two dozen huge companies for the country,
as opposed to the hundreds or thousands of small players.
(Admittedly, having dealt with ZA's dominant player in a previous job,
I'd rather use anybody else also...)
Not much at all. Just enough for a telnet/ssh session.
A dialup modem would likely do the trick, but that raises other issues about dialing up from the UK based NOC,
so I think DSL will be a little more flexible for us in this case.
If we must have a telephone line installed we may as well get DSL service over that.
Point taken though about reliability of DSL service vs plain PSTN.
I have had some offers from the right sort of companies.
One in particular has everything we need (low speed, static ip, no red tape& a clue) at half the price of the others (ask me off list if you want the name).
Also suggested to me was doing a swap with another provider in the facility but it seems as if cross connects may be prohibitively expensive between suites/floors there.
Im going to wait for pricing on this and make a choice then.
All this out of band management talk is making me think it is an
opportunity for a supper low cost DSL offering. Maybe a good way to get
read of some capacity we have.
Cheers
Ryan
All this out of band management talk is making me think it is an
opportunity for a supper low cost DSL offering. Maybe a good way to get
read of some capacity we have.
The key of course is that it not be coupled to the physical plant that
the other circuits use. I've been in a couple of facilties recently
(though not in ny) where riding into the building on twsited pair was at
best costly and more generally, infeasible.
