DS3 Ordering Experiences

This might help some people ordering DS3s from UUnet in the future, so
I'll post it here for the archives.

We ordered a DS3 to UUnet last July, and after several blown FOC dates, we
finally started passing packets last night. (And man, nothing like 2 ms
latency and being able to measure downloads in MB/s.) Thank god the
circuit is quality, or this would be an entirely different post.

UUnet was amazingly slow: 7+ months to terminate a DS3 to Frederick, MD,
50 miles north of their world headquarters.

The main reason they were so slow is because of the way they tried to
design the circuit. They have various 'legacy' systems (worldcom isn't one
big happy family) that they must check with to determine if they have the
proper capacity to bring the circuit to your location. Checking with each
of these legacy systems takes up to 21 days or even more. And here's the
fuckup: They check each one serially, instead of all at the same time.
So, with us, they hit worldcom, mci, and mfn (I believe) before they
realized they don't have the capacity, and had to contract AT&T. They
didn't contract AT&T to backhaul our circuit until DECEMBER. The entire
time from July to December, they were checking with their legacy systems
to determine if they had capacity. Had we told them to check all three at
the same time, we could have saved 2-3 months.

So, some things we have learned from this experience, that I would like to
pass on to future people:

1) If you are not in a metro area, and are ordering a circuit of any sort
with UUnet (or that touches Worldcom in any way), demand up front that
they check all of their legacy systems for capacity at the same time.
Request to be informed of the completed circuit design within 30 days.

2) Escalate early and often, and be aggressive. Give them a chance to
deliver the circuit design, but if the circuit design isn't done in 30
days, escalate every three days until it's done.

3) Every time they miss a FOC date, escalate two levels. Believe me, once
you start annoying the VPs, things start to happen _real_ fast.

4) Be an asshole when you order the circuit with regard to the SLA; demand
that for every month after 90 days that the circuit is on order (but not
installed), you get a free month of service.

So, it was the world's biggest pain in the ass to bring up, but now that
it's installed, I love it. <does the bandwidth dance>

Andy

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Remember that post I made a bit back that was supposed to be a personal note regarding
an OC12?

I have my OC12 with an FOC of March 15, 10 days ahead of my six weeks. I
also have a lot of confidence in the ability to deliver it on time.

It took me awhile, but the part about being the squeaky wheel is very true and
accurate. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

Sorry for posting so much today. Ahem. Last One.

-M

Regards,

Andy:
  Must be some kind of pact. Ours from another provider was ordered July
15 and finally delivered last Friday. I don't even want to go into all the
issues of getting to this point. Enjoy the connectivity.

Chuck

Martin Hannigan wrote:

It took me awhile, but the part about being the squeaky wheel is very true and
accurate. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

So who's the best at meeting their deadlines, amongst the big guys?

I suspect that, to a certain extent, your assessment will be true of any
backbone.

Martin Hannigan wrote:

> It took me awhile, but the part about being the squeaky wheel is very true and
> accurate. Sucks, but that's the way it is.

So who's the best at meeting their deadlines, amongst the big guys?

I suspect that, to a certain extent, your assessment will be true of any
backbone.

Yes. I don't think you can depend on a tier 1 carriers FOC, unless of course
you have a large deal like an OC12 worth of bandwidth and you build in an exit
if they don't make the date, or liquidated damages.

My 6 week OC12 was with I guess what you might call a next generation carrier,
although I'm really not sure if that's the proper phrase. I would consider Level 3 a
next gen, but in this case it's GNAPS, and I'm not really sure what they are.

Whatever they are, they're good.

-M

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