Domain renawals

Hello All,

Sorry if this is low level. But are people sick of registrars jacking up
prices? Who is the cheapest and most reliable? I have been using whois.com,
networksolutions.com and am looking for input on who is cheap, secure,
reliable registrar. Thanks for your input.

~Jeff

$9.88 for commercial domains seems under the average from what I've seen
from other registrars

cheap, secure, reliable - pick any two.

(The driver here is "cheap" - the other two criteria can be almost anything,
but to do them well will probably not be cheap. Alternately, you can have
three criteria that are all done excellently - but that level of service
won't come cheap)

cheap, secure, reliable

pick two.

--jim

so who would you quantify as secure and reliable? who does not require
additional "services" besides registration or spend all their time trying
to upsell you?

james

so who would you quantify as secure and reliable? who does not require
additional "services" besides registration or spend all their time trying
to upsell you?

i'm good with easydns.com

--jim

I have always liked https://www.gandi.net/

- Mark

Who is the cheapest and most reliable?

I've had an excellent experience with NearlyFreeSpeech:

  https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/

They have a high level of technical clue, don't try to upsell me
things I don't need or want (although they do offer services), and
they've been very efficient/precise about handling support requests.

---rsk

I got sucked into Network Solutions for years over a bunch of domains and procrastinated moving them - but they *BLOOOWWW* big time. Get away from them, you'll be glad you did. It's been a huge relief switching to gandi.net for me, but then I'm not using them for much beyond basic services, YMMV, etc.

FWIW, as I'm in the middle of this right now. It would appear that many of
the less expensive registrars no longer support glue records in any
meaningful way. They all expect you to host DNS with them. So might want
to check on that before buying the cheapest and hosting your own DNS.
/rh

In article <CAFiN6rq1bOMpiU5WSO1RwtMp7DM8jVSgMg=DBMgJSZsrOeiMcw@mail.gmail.com> you write:

FWIW, as I'm in the middle of this right now. It would appear that many of
the less expensive registrars no longer support glue records in any
meaningful way. They all expect you to host DNS with them. So might want
to check on that before buying the cheapest and hosting your own DNS.

I resell Tucows, and glue records definitely work. You have to
specifically export the ones you want, but when you do, it works.

R's,
John

Remember to check that their DNS servers are RFC compliant. You can check
EDNS compliance at https://ednscomp.isc.org/ednscomp

Mark

EasyDNS has gone beyond the normal registrar dilligence and has
resisted bogus takedowns and other things, where many would just
bend over backwards. They can do this a bit more easily by being in Canada
as well:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160606/10541834640/riaa-demands-takedown-thepiratebayorg-easydns-refuses-over-lack-due-process.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150107/17585829627/easydns-sued-refusing-to-take-down-website-without-court-order-then-hit-again-writing-about-lawsuit.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131127/02062025385/easydns-continues-to-fight-bogus-website-seizures-city-london-police-after-verisign-issues-no-decision.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150623/17321931439/icanns-war-whois-privacy.shtml

Mark Jeftovic, owner is a great guy who's one of the old school netheads (cut
my teeth with him as co admins under an ISP owned by Osama Arafat who went on
to found Q9). Recommended.

/kc

There are still many registrars that don't support DNSSEC (possibly only
for a subset of TLDs), and/or have an unusable or cumbersome interface for
adding DNSSEC glue. Just another thing to watch out for...

I use DNS Made Easy for all of my DNS hosting, which I'm happy to
recommend.

For domain registration I found that joining the GoDaddy Domain Club ( $120/year or less if you pay ahead for multiple years [1] ) is a good
deal for the quantity of domains I own (56 and counting). It's kind of like
Sam's Club -- you pay a membership fee for lower bulk pricing.

Additionally they handle nearly every TLD, like .us, .name and co.uk.

NearlyFreeSpeech.net looks to have pricing that is close to that of the
Domain Club, may have to check them out. The Domain Club cost of $120
divided by 56 domains is about $2.15 per Domain, so NearlyFree wins
handily. I'd like to learn more about the WHO behind NFSN, as well as how
and when they offer support.

     TLD NearlyFree GoDaddy Domain Club [Adjusted]
     com $9.34 > $8.29 [$10.44]
     org $11.39 < $11.99 [$14.14]
     net $10.54 > $8.99 [$11.14]
     info $10.69 > $9.99 [$12.14]
     name $8.99 < $9.99 [$12.14]
     biz $11.19 < $11.99 [$14.14]

In the 10-15 years of using GoDaddy, despite my disagreement with some of
their marketing and public business positions, my domains don't get stolen,
they haven't shut anything down, I haven't lost a domain name, and their
support is decent when I need it (and it is 24/7 phone / email / chat).

[1] https://www.godaddy.com/domains/discount-domains.aspx

Beckman

For domain registration I found that joining the GoDaddy Domain Club
( $120/year or less if you pay ahead for multiple years [1] ) ...

There's a lot of registrars with prepay discounts. Gandi's domains
are cheaper if you prepay $600, a lot cheaper if you prepay $2000.

R's,
John

I've had quite good luck with: Gandi, Hover, 101domains, and Google
Domains -- depending on which cc/TLDs you're looking for.

I'll throw in a recommendation for Dyn. The reliability and features are excellent and I love their support.

allan

Prepayment makes no sense, unless you are planning on maintaining more
than 10 domains,
which warrants much more due dilligence than if registering one or two domains.

Also, if you're maintaining one or two domains, then it is sensible
to pay more
for a registrar that provides better support, or a more intuitive web interface.
For maintaining a larger number of domains: perhaps more powerful management
tools are more useful, and possibly the ease-of-use is a lower priority.

Therefore, it depends on what you are doing with domains.
I know of registrars that are $8.99 per Year and $8.39 per Year for a .COM,
with no prepayment necessary, for those rates, and small discounts
for prepay.

* They say "cheap, secure, reliable, pick two" But that's not
really how it is.

it's really more like "Inexpensive, Good support, Feature-complete",
pick two.

Because no registrar is "secure" totally; phishing is conceivable with
any registrar.
That includes ne'er do wells pre-texting you and tricking registrar
support personnel
to change your e-mail address plus password and give it to a cracker.

You can't give up reliability to get security, so the original 3 don't work.
Every registrar known to offer advanced security mitigations charges a boatload,
or part of a boatload to add them.

If you want security, then the closest you get is what's called a
Registry lock with'
a telephone-based confirmation of domain changes, And two-factor login to the
website.

Last I check, getting the registry lock service is Only available on
certain TLDs,
and adds between $500 and $1000 Per domain name to the cost.

Also, there is a bit of inconvenience, since you are setting a lock which
your domain registrar is unable to override on their own, so routine
maintenance
such as updating DNS servers or renewing becomes a potentially
drawn-out process.....

Various registrars offer Two-Factor website login and 'Max Lock'
features of their own,
providing their own confirmation, and just a Client/Registrar-Lock
on the domain,

But again...... you can't see the registrar's IT systems, so blindly
assuming they are secure
would be silly. Certainly price can't tell you that.

None of the registrars are going to be totally secure.

It's just a question of.... How long have they been around, how much
business does
the registrar do, and how many times have they been hacked and the hack
was bad enough that the internet community discovered it?

In article <CAFiN6rq1bOMpiU5WSO1RwtMp7DM8jVSgMg=DBMgJSZsrOeiMcw@mail.gmail.com> you write:
>FWIW, as I'm in the middle of this right now. It would appear that many of
>the less expensive registrars no longer support glue records in any
>meaningful way. They all expect you to host DNS with them. So might want
>to check on that before buying the cheapest and hosting your own DNS.

I resell Tucows, and glue records definitely work. You have to
specifically export the ones you want, but when you do, it works.

Me too.