Discussion point: Telco quality?

Unnamed Administration sources reported that Roeland M.J. Meyer said:

>Are there things that can happen to both which will really ruin your day?
Yes.

Actually, on 2Sep98, PacBell had a CO failure that knocked out service, in
Livermore, for 12 hours. Voice, data, everything, not even 911!

Not sure how a CO failure brings down leased line data....

What WILL bring down the whole house..:

  Fiber cut -- as well as other wholescale transmission
    FUBAR's.

  Power -- remember the NYC ATT crash? It took hours
    to bring the DACS back up... Don't
    overlook lightning strikes on the incoming power
    feed.

  Enviromental -- if the HVAC croaks, if a waterline floods
    from the cable vault on up, or there's an
    earthquake, or a Hinsdale-style fire.
  
But such will never happen, so we can all rest easy....right?

What WILL bring down the whole house..:

my favorite was the one byte change to the switch code which took out a big
chunk of the country.

randy

Unnamed Administration sources reported that Roeland M.J. Meyer said:

>Are there things that can happen to both which will really ruin your day?
Yes.

Actually, on 2Sep98, PacBell had a CO failure that knocked out service, in
Livermore, for 12 hours. Voice, data, everything, not even 911!

Not sure how a CO failure brings down leased line data....

The *whole* CO went off-line.

What WILL bring down the whole house..:

Fiber cut -- as well as other wholescale transmission
  FUBAR's.

That wouldn't have taken the entire town off-line.

Power -- remember the NYC ATT crash? It took hours
  to bring the DACS back up... Don't
  overlook lightning strikes on the incoming power
  feed.

Enviromental -- if the HVAC croaks, if a waterline floods
  from the cable vault on up, or there's an
  earthquake, or a Hinsdale-style fire.

I would have notice an earthquake, of the fire. The CO's not far from here.

But such will never happen, so we can all rest easy....right?

Cascaded failures will do it. aka Murphy having a party.

Are you referring to the 4ESS SS7 cascade crash of several years back,
Randy? I seem to recall that that was more than one character. Couple
of lines.

Now, there _was_ a one character problem in a FORTRTAN program that
killed a space probe...

The Neumann and Lee books are quite good references on this, albeit the
Lee book is a touch sensational.

Cheers,
-- jra