Hi, just a quickie (respond via e-mail, I'll summarize to the list)...
Need to build a core NSP backbone.
Who's equipment do I want:
1) cisco
2) Bay
3) 3Com
Please include model, personal likes/dislikes, caveats, etc, etc...
Thanks! Bakeoff ends May 31st/98...
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Rob M. VanHooren - Chief Plumber, +1 519 679-1155 x33
Packet Pusher, and Resident Mad Scientist(tm) Alarms to 646-4724
Network Engineering Services 171 Queens Avenue, Suite 320
Linkdata Communications Inc. London, CANADA
FreeBSD and decent networking cards (ie: Intel PRO100Bs) can route a couple
of 100Mbps switched fast ethernets (yes, full duplex too)
The Pentium Pro 200 is the processor of choice for this; the Pentium II,
at least until the new version announced at Spring Comdex with the full-speed
secondary cache and SLOT 2 ships, is slower than the Pentium Pro 200 in
this application.
This will hold you up to ~100 - 150Mbps in total throughput. Beyond that
you're talking CISCO, at least in my experience.
If you're seriously doing this you need to get on-staff a REAL routing
engineer who has done this in the past and knows what the hell he or she
is doing. They're rare and pricey, but you need one.
Contrary to popular belief, national networks are not simple to set up in a
way which will insure that they have maximum survivability and performance.
If you're seriously doing this you need to get on-staff a REAL routing
engineer who has done this in the past and knows what the hell he or she
is doing. They're rare and pricey, but you need one.
Contrary to popular belief, national networks are not simple to set up in a
way which will insure that they have maximum survivability and performance.
Naw, they just need a copy of Global Internet Routing for Dummies, the
Metropolitan Area Ethernet Starter Kit and ISP in a Box.
If you'd like to build a core NSP backbone, go to the Core Store. They are
located on 31337 Clue Blvd., Cluetown, DC.
Hi, just a quickie (respond via e-mail, I'll summarize to the list)...
Need to build a core NSP backbone.
Who's equipment do I want:
1) cisco
2) Bay
3) 3Com
Please include model, personal likes/dislikes, caveats, etc, etc...
Thanks! Bakeoff ends May 31st/98...
~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-.._..-*~
Rob M. VanHooren - Chief Plumber, +1 519 679-1155 x33
Packet Pusher, and Resident Mad Scientist(tm) Alarms to 646-4724
Network Engineering Services 171 Queens Avenue, Suite 320
Linkdata Communications Inc. London, CANADA
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Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
I route, therefore I am.
Alex Rubenstein, alex@nac.net, KC2BUO, ISP/C Charter Member
Father of the Network and Head Bottle-Washer
Net Access Corporation, 9 Mt. Pleasant Tpk., Denville, NJ 07834
Don't choose a spineless ISP! We have more backbone! http://www.nac.net
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You don't want Bay
As somebody who has a few Bay B[CL]Ns in his network along with the
requisite army of Ciscos, I regretfully must concur. They had an
architectural lead over Cisco until VIP2-40/50s, (d)CEF and the 12000, but
they haven't been keeping up. Cisco has Bay outmatched in scalability,
density, software stability, breadth of product line, modern features (CAR,
policy routing, WRED, etc.), support, documentation, ease of configuration
-- there are still some things you can't reasonably configure on a Bay
without Site Mangler pumping SNMP into it, and unfortunately sometimes a
router in a bad spot isn't easy to access via anything but its console,
visibility (our net management guys seem to have a harder time dealing with
Bay), and overall sleep-cycle impact. Heck, Cisco routers even look
better. Nowadays there's not much reason to consider Bay other than cost,
and over the long run, I believe the Bay TCO is higher.
And it's a heck of a lot easier to hire somebody with relevant Cisco
experience than with Bay or 3com. Don't ever underestimate that advantage.
regards,
-- Robert
...wondering if this message will take over a day to reach the list like
his last ones.
That *can't* be in DC because on one there has a....well never mind.
can I get fries with that?
--Rob.
"I hate to tell y'all this, but he's got a job with deep-packet frying
in his future."
"Hi, Cluenet NOC; this is ... Bob."
Cheers,
-- jra
Last time I saw somebody try to fit an entire ISP in a box,
they ran into a problem: no room for customers.