Cogent Haiku v2.0

Cogent makes a mess
My phone rings and rings
Unfornicate this!

NANOG is too cool.
Rhyming with net engineers.
Poet don't know it.

Jay Murphy
IP Network Specialist
NM Department of Health
ITSD - IP Network Operations
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502
Bus. Ph.: 505.827.2851

"We move the information that moves your world."

The XO version:

XO is low cost
The cabinets had no power
Service was useless

Jeff

Customers thank me
I will not stoop much lower
Pay dirt for transit

good stuff

Jay Murphy
IP Network Specialist
NM Department of Health
ITSD - IP Network Operations
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502
Bus. Ph.: 505.827.2851

"We move the information that moves your world."

I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a
connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&t, Level
3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's
seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't know
what to make of the apparent negativity that I am seeing in these
haiku threads. I am looking for some first hand experiences to help
me make this decision.

Thanks for any assistance!

Mike

Cisco 7k nodes
Cascading VIP card failures
Reload the router

Net admins are bored
Nanog lists run wild
Useless spam blows up phone

:slight_smile:

-r

Level 3 has gear.
Bleeding edge technology.
Get huge pipes right now.

Jay Murphy
IP Network Specialist
NM Department of Health
ITSD - IP Network Operations
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502
Bus. Ph.: 505.827.2851

"We move the information that moves your world."

All... Please stop this off-topic WOB.

Mike,

Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any
serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also
try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or
BtN.

Best regards, Jeff

Cisco 7k nodes
Cascading VIP card failures
Reload the router

McColo shuts down
Spammers enjoy holiday
.. and then recommence

NANOG has admins
They waste a lot of time now
Maybe paid to much

Mike Bartz wrote:

I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a
connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&t, Level
3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's
seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't know
what to make of the apparent negativity that I am seeing in these
haiku threads. I am looking for some first hand experiences to help
me make this decision.

Thanks for any assistance!

Hey Mike,

I wouldn't take my word for it but truthfully, you get what you pay for.
Given you have other, more reliable transit, adding Cogent may be ok.
I wouldn't rely on it for anything serious though.

Hope this helps,

Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

Mike,

Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any
serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also
try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or
BtN.

I can second that. For the amount of money they charge, you get a very
good deal and their techs are competent.

However, due to peering wars, never rely on them alone. Any decent ISP
should anyway at least have connections from n+1 carriers.

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen

Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

Mike,

Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any
serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also
try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or
BtN.

Plus if you had direct connectivity to Cogent, their peering status with others wouldn't affect you anymore. Personally, I've seriously considered this as a reason to get a connection from Cogent.

~Seth

Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

Mike,

Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any
serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also
try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or
BtN.

(resend due to subject filter)

Plus if you had direct connectivity to Cogent, their peering status with
others wouldn't affect you anymore. Personally, I've seriously
considered this as a reason to get a connection from Cogent.

~Seth

Adam Young wrote:

I wouldn't take my word for it but truthfully, you get what you pay for.
Given you have other, more reliable transit, adding Cogent may be ok.
I wouldn't rely on it for anything serious though.

That has not been my experience. Peering wars have been an issue, but
aside from that, they've been fine. (This is transit in San Francisco
at the gigabit-plus level.)

Jim Shankland

So, you're essentially getting paid peering from Cogent then ?

Joe McGuckin
ViaNet Communications

joe@via.net
650-207-0372 cell
650-213-1302 office
650-969-2124 fax

We peer with Cogent. They are very competitive in terms of pricing.
To be honest, Cogent has been pretty good to us. As long as you have a
2nd peer (which it sounds like you do) for backup I'd say they're a
pretty safe bet.

The only problem I've had with Cogent is that they're still not ready to
route IPv6.

The whole "you get what you pay for" talk is nonsense in my book, you're
paying top dollar with places like Sprint because they use the income to
subsidize their other efforts that are taking a loss.

Ray Soucy
Communications Specialist

+1 (207) 561-3526

Communications and Network Services

University of Maine System
http://www.maine.edu/