> Livingstone based product, and do *not* do CIDR.
>
> BTW Any BSD4.4 based *NIX (NetBSD, FreeBSD, etc) *does* do CIDR.
Another reason why some people are thinking that workstations and generic
micros sometimes look pretty good as replacements for "real" routers.
You get software that works, full source code, faster CPUs, and fewer
memory limitations. At a cost low enough to get a "free" spare.
Let's excuse the fact that gated consumes more memory than a cisco for the
same amount of routes for a second...
Okay, so let's talk functionality.
Are there HSSI PCI cards available? Can you do SMDS over this card? Frame?
What about a DS3 ATM card, or higher?
I know we can do Ethernet, FDDI, sync, and T1 FR, so that's half of it, but
there are still lot's of reason's to buy Cisco gear.
I'm not excusing the possibility of being able to use PC's, but the additional
management issues of having to manage Unix box's in addition to internal
routing policies, and expansion efforts sounds like a headache. Managing
a network of Cisco's requires a relatively small amount of time, and my staff
and I can concentrate on real problems.
Dave
Ok, yes you are correct you can't drop a DS3 into the back of a PC, but
why not use a 4500 or 7000 for your ds3's and then use a PC to do the
major BGP4? On a 4500 I only can put in 32 megs or ram. Yes gated will
use more ram for the same number of routes, but I can put 128 meg or more
in a PC.
I think we need to talk about using PC route servers and cisco together
for a solution, the cisco's just can't hold the ram needed.
Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World!
I don't know if others have mentioned it... but I seem to recall that DEC was
developing a PCI based HSSI interface for PCs. It also recently surfaced on
one of the zillions of mailing lists.
Granted you'd still need a DL 3100 or Larse Access-T45 to do your DS3 <-> HSSI
stuff though.
Ok, yes you are correct you can't drop a DS3 into the back of a PC, but
why not use a 4500 or 7000 for your ds3's and then use a PC to do the
major BGP4? On a 4500 I only can put in 32 megs or ram. Yes gated will
use more ram for the same number of routes, but I can put 128 meg or more
in a PC.
I think we need to talk about using PC route servers and cisco together
for a solution, the cisco's just can't hold the ram needed.
That's why there's the 4500M, and the 7000, and ...
Tony
and ... ? And what? That is the problem, I go out get a 7000 and then
need more ram in a few month I need to get a new router that is vary
expensive.
Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World!
and ... ? And what? That is the problem, I go out get a 7000 and then
need more ram in a few month I need to get a new router that is vary
expensive.
That's why we want to deploy CIDR. So we're not caught in this
bind...
As to the specifics, please consult your cisco salesperson and ask for
a nondisclosure presentation on high end futures.
Tony