Dear All,
Does anyone know if AWS amazon “cloudfront”, cloud flare, Microsoft … etc, hosting their servers on other party providers?
just like what GGC and Akamai do by hosting their servers on other ISP’s datacenter!
Regards,
looking at peeringdb -- http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=16509 might
give you an idea where they are.
mehmet
PeeringDB will tell you where they connect. I do not think anyone puts stuff into PeeringDB when they have on-net nodes.
In general, only the big three (Akamai, Netflix, Google) have significant deployments inside eyeball networks. Exceptions to every rule and all that, but if you pick random large eyeball network, chances are very, very high they have no one other than those three - if they have any at all.
I don’t think anyone really would tell where their critical network assets are but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they have connection points available.
I do not follow the logic.
If a CDN says they have a gigantic peering node in DC, how does that tell you where they put on-net servers?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to put servers on-net in OKC or SLC because they do _NOT_ have large peering nodes there? Locality is important. Akamai has thousands of nodes in a hundred or so countries. While they have a lot of peering, I have trouble thinking their nodes are all next to large IXPs. (OK, I know they are not, but let’s not get into that.) Plus this seems very US/EU centric. What about places without a lot large IXPs, like South America, Africa, South-East Asia, etc.?
Finally, your logic seems a bit self-contradictory: “They won’t tell you where their big network nodes are. But if you look in this free, public database, you can find their big network nodes."
I think we both agree there is no perfect publication of where their servers actually are
Given Ahmed is asking "Does anyone know if AWS amazon “cloudfront”, cloud flare, Microsoft … etc, hosting their servers on other party providers?”
i think the answer you given which is
In general, only the big three (Akamai, Netflix, Google) have significant deployments inside eyeball networks. Exceptions to every rule and all that, but if you pick random large eyeball network, chances are very, very high they have no one other than those three - if they have any at all.
good one
Mehmet
Hello,
I believe Microsoft does that too, even if it's not explicitly written :
http://www.microsoft.com/Peering/Caching
Best regards.
I don’t think anyone really would tell where their critical network assets are but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they have connection points available.
in general people who want to serve bits to your customers are going to
be a little less coy about where there assets are. in particular the CDN
bits are interested in peering nearer to your region of operation rather
than further.
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> > in general people who want to serve bits to your customers are
going to > be a little less coy about where there assets are. in
particular the CDN > bits are interested in peering nearer to your
region of operation rather > than further.
And on the partner side (where we, a service provider, may host a CDN
cluster on-net), provided the CDN provider is fine with it, we would not
be coy about what CDN assets are where, to the public and our customers.
Mark.