Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

The other thing I found interesting; The use of Zip Ties on Copper Cabling
is frowned upon by BICSI. Velcro preferred.

Something to do with the compression on a twisted-pair cable caused by
over-tight nylon cable ties screwing with their twist rates, and thus
changing their Crosttalk characteristics...

Yep.

For starters, the stuff that Dan Mahoney is looking for is properly known as
waxed linen lacing cord. In a past life I used to order the stuff made
by Ludlow Textiles through Graybar, their part # back then was 89039323. It's
not always in stock in individual stores.

As for plastic ties (TyRap is the brand name for the Thomas & Betts version)
they may be easy to use, but they do have several functional drawbacks,
including:

1) difficulty in maintaining consistent tension from tie to tie, and as
   a correlary it is comparatively easy to overtighten one, risking
   compression-related damage to the underlying cabling, or as mentioned above,
   increasing crosstalk when using twisted-pair cables
2) can harden and/or become brittle over time, eventually failing under stress
3) typical background vibration causes them to tend to chafe the sheaths of the
   wiring that the ties are in direct contact with, over a period of years.

Lacing is a lot slower than using platic ties, and doing it is rough on your
fingers. If you're lucky you know a data tech who can show you how to do it
properly, it's really not something that you can just describe in writing.

Depending upon the specific need, contact points may also have pieces of fish
paper laced to them before the wiring is laid out and laced into place.
Not unusual to see this when DC power cables are being secured.

This (and the other superbowl related emails) reminds me of
a time I had a DS3 go down (on superbowl sunday). It had some
chronic errors that would pop up where it would go down seemingly
randomly. What we found out after a few more outages was that this (LD)
carrier who placed their facilities next to train tracks had a
more chronic issue of a train going by and causing LOS or errors on the
circuit where they handed it off on coax to the ILEC/CLEC.

  Getting someone dispatched to look at the circuit on that
sunday was problematic to say the least :wink:

  - jared

The other thing I found interesting; The use of Zip Ties on Copper Cabling
is frowned upon by BICSI. Velcro preferred.

Something to do with the compression on a twisted-pair cable caused by
over-tight nylon cable ties screwing with their twist rates, and thus
changing their Crosttalk characteristics...

Yep.

For starters, the stuff that Dan Mahoney is looking for is properly known as
waxed linen lacing cord. In a past life I used to order the stuff made
by Ludlow Textiles through Graybar, their part # back then was 89039323. It's
not always in stock in individual stores.

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Lacing is a lot slower than using platic ties, and doing it is rough on your
fingers. If you're lucky you know a data tech who can show you how to do it
properly, it's really not something that you can just describe in writing.

The UK avionics industry used to (and may still) use thin PVC tube for lacing
- kind of like thin insulated wire without the wire. It's got several advantages:-

1) Much kinder on the fingers
2) It stretches, which:-
    a) minimises the risk of overtightening it
    b) the elasticity keeps it snug, it doesn't work loose over time as easily
3) it doesn't rot

And yes, I am old enough to know how to do it. But I disagree with Randy (what's new)
I'm more of a Techosaur than a Telephant.

Ian

Sounds like a good use for youtube.