billing systems

ISPs using a magic 8-ball based billing system may find that customizing
the 8-ball is not only feasible but may make for better profit margins
when the 8-ball is properly tuned:

    http://8ball.ofb.net/howto.html

i might be persuaded to make a presentation on this at the next nanog
meeting.

cheers,
  richard

Ah, but does "Chpt 11 appears imminent" fit?

Can someone verify something for me?

Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the
i.gtld-servers.net

why would the www one resolve?

Geo.

You have www.stemtostern.com registered as a name server, so there's a glue
record for it in the GTLD servers.

Vivien

It's stale glue; i.e., there's a host (nameserver) record for this
address. Delete or modify the record.

jazz% whois www.stemtostern.com

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Server Name: WWW.STEMTOSTERN.COM
   IP Address: 216.144.36.50
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com

jazz% dig @b.gtld-servers.net www.stemtostern.com +norec

; <<>> DiG 9.3.0s20021217 <<>> @b.gtld-servers.net www.stemtostern.com +norec
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 57571
;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.stemtostern.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.stemtostern.com. 172800 IN A 216.144.36.50

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
stemtostern.com. 172800 IN NS NS1.NLS.NET.
stemtostern.com. 172800 IN NS NS2.NLS.NET.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
NS1.NLS.NET. 172800 IN A 216.144.0.10
NS2.NLS.NET. 172800 IN A 216.144.0.11

;; Query time: 17 msec
;; SERVER: 192.33.14.30#53(b.gtld-servers.net)
;; WHEN: Thu Feb 27 11:59:29 2003
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 128

If an A (or AAAA) record appears in the com or net zones, it's because
it is referenced at least one NS record also in the com and net zones,
i.e., it appears on the right side of an NS record.

This is the case with www.stemtostern.com. While it is not a name
server for stemtostern.com, it is a name server for
harbormarinetowing.com; please see the dig output below.

Matt

Matt Larson wrote:

> Can someone verify something for me?
>
> Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com
against the
> i.gtld-servers.net
>
> why would the www one resolve?

If an A (or AAAA) record appears in the com or net zones, it's because
it is referenced at least one NS record also in the com and net zones,
i.e., it appears on the right side of an NS record.

Is it _finally_ possible then, to get a AAAA record as glue into
the com/net/org zones?

This is the case with www.stemtostern.com. While it is not a name
server for stemtostern.com, it is a name server for
harbormarinetowing.com; please see the dig output below.

Matt
--
Matt Larson <mlarson@verisign.com>
VeriSign Global Registry Services

Greets,
Jeroen

Perhaps it is GLUE for an NS record.

Owen

In the immortal words of Geo. (georger@getinfo.net):

Can someone verify something for me?
Do an NSLOOKUP for www.stemtostern.com and stemtostern.com against the
i.gtld-servers.net
why would the www one resolve?

Sheesh.

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                 "This is UNIX. Stop acting so helpless."
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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671723650/qid=1046567734/sr=2-1/ref=
sr_2_1/002-9383411-3569615
right back at cha..

Geo.

Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:15:56 -0500
From: Geo.

Amazon.com
right back at cha..

At the risk of turning this into a "you need to read this"-fest:

http://www.nanog.org/faq/

helps clarify the scope and charter of this list. People here
generally [try to] read RFCs and such before posting... and RFC
1034 and 1035 explain glue rather well.

Eddy

Hi, Jeroen.

Is it _finally_ possible then, to get a AAAA record as glue into
the com/net/org zones?

Yes, since RRP 2.0 (the protocol used by ICANN-accredited registrars
to register com/net domains with VeriSign Global Registry Services)
was deployed in mid-May, 2002. Since the registrars are the customers
of VeriSign GRS, we communicated this new feature to them directly and
not to the general public. (Although researching this topic has made
it clear to me that we've got to get something about it on our web
site, which I'm working on.) It appears that the registrars have not
widely publicized the availability of this feature. Also, not all
registrars support registration of AAAA records. For example, the
Network Solutions registrar does not, but PSI Japan and eNom do.
That's definitely not a complete list: those are the only registrars
that I have definitive information on. The only way to know for sure
about your registrar is to ask them.

Please let me know if I can be answer any other questions or otherwise
help you out.

Kind regards,

Matt