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BGP Update Report
Interval: 25-Aug-06 -to- 07-Sep-06 (14 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS4637

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name
1 - AS4134 37938 2.8% 61.8 -- CHINANET-BACKBONE No.31,Jin-rong Street
2 - AS17974 18693 1.4% 36.9 -- TELKOMNET-AS2-AP PT TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA
3 - AS8685 13836 1.0% 406.9 -- DORUKNET DorukNet Istanbul / Turkey
4 - AS6197 11668 0.9% 11.3 -- BATI-ATL - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc
5 - AS9121 11449 0.8% 97.0 -- TTNET TTnet Autonomous System
6 - AS15464 11391 0.8% 474.6 -- IHLASNET IHLASNET Autonomous System
7 - AS8386 10412 0.8% 433.8 -- KOCNET KOCNET-AS
8 - AS17557 10189 0.8% 28.4 -- PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom
9 - AS15611 10017 0.7% 88.6 -- Iranian Research Organisation
10 - AS855 9974 0.7% 17.7 -- CANET-ASN-4 - Aliant Telecom
11 - AS34104 9297 0.7% 464.9 -- TELETEK-AS TELETEK TELEKOMINIKASYON HIZMETLERI A.S
12 - AS12497 8715 0.6% 174.3 -- SANET-GE SANET NETWORK (AS)
13 - AS7011 8589 0.6% 12.8 -- FRONTIER-AND-CITIZENS - Frontier Communications, Inc.
14 - AS33783 8176 0.6% 76.4 -- EEPAD
15 - AS4621 8164 0.6% 60.9 -- UNSPECIFIED UNINET-TH
16 - AS4787 8063 0.6% 30.2 -- ASN-CBN ASN CBNnet
17 - AS9394 8062 0.6% 17.6 -- CRNET CHINA RAILWAY Internet(CRNET)
18 - AS9021 7775 0.6% 555.4 -- ISNET ISBANKASI Autonomous System
19 - AS6198 7755 0.6% 15.0 -- BATI-MIA - BellSouth Network Solutions, Inc
20 - AS34695 7252 0.5% 164.8 -- E4A-AS E4A Primary AS

TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS (Updates per announced prefix)
Rank ASN Upds % Upds/Pfx AS-Name
1 - AS3043 3039 0.2% 3039.0 -- AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation
2 - AS30298 988 0.1% 988.0 -- FIRST-AMERICAN-BANK-SSB - First American Bank
3 - AS34378 900 0.1% 900.0 -- RUG-AS Razguliay-UKRROS Group
4 - AS12922 842 0.1% 842.0 -- MULTITRADE-AS Bank Outsourcer
5 - AS34984 794 0.1% 794.0 -- BITEL-AS BILISIM TELEKOM
6 - AS35080 784 0.1% 784.0 -- OYAK-TELEKOM-AS Oyak Telekom Hizm. BGP AS
7 - AS39298 762 0.1% 762.0 -- SERI Seri Bilgi Teknolojileri ve Destek Hizmetleri
8 - AS4271 1493 0.1% 746.5 -- WORX - Networx
9 - AS31526 745 0.1% 745.0 -- TEKOFAKS-AS TEKOFAKS
10 - AS29666 725 0.1% 725.0 -- TRHENKEL Turk Henkel Kimya Sanayi
11 - AS39080 721 0.1% 721.0 -- SIMETRI-AS SIMETRI YAZILIM
12 - AS31365 1432 0.1% 716.0 -- SGSTELEKOM SGS Telekom Autonomous System
13 - AS31085 711 0.1% 711.0 -- VIKINGNET-AS VIKING TUR
14 - AS29635 700 0.1% 700.0 -- BANVIT-AS Banvit A.S
15 - AS30734 682 0.1% 682.0 -- METISBILG-AS Metis Bilgi Sistemleri A.S
16 - AS31704 677 0.1% 677.0 -- ROBERTCOLLEGE-AS Robert College
17 - AS38920 676 0.1% 676.0 -- MNGBANK-TR Mng Turkiye
18 - AS39328 668 0.1% 668.0 -- BOTO-AS Borusan Oto
19 - AS31307 668 0.1% 668.0 -- YKYATIRIM YAPI KREDI YATIRIM
20 - AS29549 2646 0.2% 661.5 -- ZIRAATBANK-AS T.C. Ziraat Bankasi A.S.

TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
1 - 202.125.147.0/24 3980 0.2% AS17557 -- PKTELECOM-AS-AP Pakistan Telecom
2 - 208.0.225.0/24 3068 0.2% AS11139 -- CWRIN CW BARBADOS
3 - 209.140.24.0/24 3039 0.2% AS3043 -- AMPHIB-AS - Amphibian Media Corporation
4 - 83.210.15.0/24 1843 0.1% AS23918 -- CBB-BGP-IBARAKI Connexion By Boeing Ibaraki AS
                                     AS29257 -- CBB-IE-AS Connexion by Boeing Ireland, Ltd.
                                     AS30533 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-LTN - Connexion by Boeing
                                     AS31050 -- CBB-RU-ASN Connexion by Boeing Eastern Europe, Ltd.
                                     AS33697 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-VBC - Connexion by Boeing
5 - 143.81.0.0/21 1618 0.1% AS6034 -- DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center
6 - 205.98.32.0/20 1147 0.1% AS5839 -- DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center
7 - 195.46.34.0/23 1013 0.1% AS31200 -- NTK Novotelecom ltd.
8 - 216.85.162.0/23 1001 0.1% AS6467 -- ESPIRECOMM - Xspedius Communications Co.
9 - 209.189.231.0/24 988 0.1% AS30298 -- FIRST-AMERICAN-BANK-SSB - First American Bank
10 - 205.97.69.0/24 933 0.1% AS5839 -- DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center
11 - 130.36.88.0/21 931 0.1% AS2686 -- AT&T Global Network Services - EMEA
12 - 205.97.70.0/24 930 0.1% AS5839 -- DDN-ASNBLK - DoD Network Information Center
13 - 80.64.80.0/23 928 0.1% AS31200 -- NTK Novotelecom ltd.
14 - 193.242.123.0/24 900 0.1% AS34378 -- RUG-AS Razguliay-UKRROS Group
15 - 217.195.192.0/21 843 0.1% AS9121 -- TTNET TTnet Autonomous System
16 - 194.105.61.0/24 842 0.1% AS12922 -- MULTITRADE-AS Bank Outsourcer
17 - 60.253.32.0/24 822 0.1% AS23918 -- CBB-BGP-IBARAKI Connexion By Boeing Ibaraki AS
                                     AS30533 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-LTN - Connexion by Boeing
                                     AS31050 -- CBB-RU-ASN Connexion by Boeing Eastern Europe, Ltd.
                                     AS33697 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-VBC - Connexion by Boeing
18 - 216.51.192.0/18 808 0.1% AS5056 -- INS-NET-2 - Iowa Network Services
19 - 213.91.174.0/24 800 0.1% AS8866 -- BTC-AS Bulgarian Telecommunication Company Plc.
20 - 85.29.0.0/18 794 0.1% AS34984 -- BITEL-AS BILISIM TELEKOM

Details at http://bgpupdates.potaroo.net

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Strike me as curious, but this seems as if Connexion by Boeing is handing off a /24 from ASN to ASN as a certain plane moves over certain geographic areas. Or is there some other explanation?

TOP 20 Unstable Prefixes
Rank Prefix Upds % Origin AS -- AS Name
4 - 83.210.15.0/24 1843 0.1% AS23918 -- CBB-BGP-IBARAKI Connexion By Boeing Ibaraki AS
                                    AS29257 -- CBB-IE-AS Connexion by Boeing Ireland, Ltd.
                                    AS30533 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-LTN - Connexion by Boeing
                                    AS31050 -- CBB-RU-ASN Connexion by Boeing Eastern Europe, Ltd.
                                    AS33697 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-VBC - Connexion by Boeing
17 - 60.253.32.0/24 822 0.1% AS23918 -- CBB-BGP-IBARAKI Connexion By Boeing Ibaraki AS
                                    AS30533 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-LTN - Connexion by Boeing
                                    AS31050 -- CBB-RU-ASN Connexion by Boeing Eastern Europe, Ltd.
                                    AS33697 -- CONNEXION-BY-BOEING-VBC - Connexion by Boeing

Hank Nussbacher
http://www.interall.co.il

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They presented at NANOG saying they would be re-announcing a /24 per plane as it crosses the ocean. I can't recall if the originating (or transit) ASNs were going to change, but it doesn't seem wholly unreasonable. IMHO, of course.

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Yes, that was their architecture, originally. My understanding was that
they'd subsequently moved to a more complicated system of NATing, but my
understanding may be incorrect, or they may not have done so entirely.

                                -Bill

5

Detailed at nanog 31 (among other meetings):
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0405/abarbanel.html

2005 detail from a blogger:
http://bayosphere.com/node/879

2006 detail from another blogger:
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2006/04/tracking_plane_flight_on_inter.shtml

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From their webpage:

Service Advisory
On Aug. 17, 2006, the Boeing Company announced that a detailed business and market analysis of Connexion by Boeing is complete, and the company has decided to exit the high-speed broadband communications connectivity markets. Boeing will work with its customers to facilitate an orderly phase out of the Connexion by Boeing service. Passengers traveling on Internet-equipped flights will be able to use the service until it is phased out between now and the end of the year, depending on the airline.

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Was it merely not enough customers? or were there other issues? inquiring minds is all =)

-brandon

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Just wondering this, myself. I travel fairly frequently between US and Europe,
and Lufthansa was recently my choice, exclusively because of this service.
Perhaps with the interdiction of computing devices on board (have not
travelled since the UK incident, so I am not sure if the new rules of flying
naked affect all flights?!?) there won't - obviously - be much of a need for
an Internet connection ...

Stefan

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The main issue, from what I read, is that too few airlines followed suit.
In particular, most American airlines were far too strapped financially to
invest in the necessary equipment.

    --Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

10

Duh. Did you ever read the numbers for Connexion? They managed to design a
system which cost the airlines up to $1mil per plane to install, and only
generated $80k/yr/plane total revenue (thats Boeing revenue not airline
revenue). They had an opex of something like $150mil/yr on total revenue
of $11mil/yr.

Obviously there is no such thing as an FAA certified $50 Linksys WRT54G,
but it never fails to amaze me how people are utterly shocked when reality
catches up with their wild, unchecked, and stupid spending. :slight_smile:

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Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> writes:

Duh. Did you ever read the numbers for Connexion? They managed to design a
system which cost the airlines up to $1mil per plane to install, and only
generated $80k/yr/plane total revenue (thats Boeing revenue not airline
revenue). They had an opex of something like $150mil/yr on total revenue
of $11mil/yr.

Now this is interesting. $80k/year, $25 a shot = 3200 users per
aircraft per year. Assume long-haul aircraft that daily average two
flights per day, 320 days per year (to keep it easy), that means the
average number of users on a flight is... 5.

Someone's marketing department was asleep at the switch, I think.

Obviously there is no such thing as an FAA certified $50 Linksys WRT54G,
but it never fails to amaze me how people are utterly shocked when reality
catches up with their wild, unchecked, and stupid spending. :slight_smile:

My recollection is that they were using fairly off the shelf stuff
though, 3548s and Aironet 1200s if memory serves. It's poking holes
in the fuselage for the antenna, and the satellite antenna itself,
that costs the big bucks.

                                        ---rob

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There is still interest in this technology at Boeing and elsewhere, and
there will probably be a BOF on the problems associated with large mobile networks at the
San Diego IETF this Fall. Anyone interested in the technology at the IP level can let me know and I will
make sure you get the announcements.

As for the business side of it, there are other uses for network connectivity on a modern aircraft
besides searching the web.

Regards
Marshall

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Yep.
And they also presented it on this side of the Atlantic, back in May'2004:

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/ripe48-routing-global.pdf

Best Regards,

./Carlos Skype: cf916183694