Is it unreasonable of me to think it's awfully backwards of ANS.NET to
require anyone getting a new CIDR block to physically call ANS's NOC and
say "please listen to routes for this block from this AS"?
First they told me "we don't trust BGP, so we use the various routing
registries to build our routing tables." So I got our new block and our
AS in radb.ra.net. A few days (and an ANS routing table update or two) go
by, and still we have no connectivity to ANS. Then I get an email from
them asking me to please call thier NOC to verify that they really should
listen to our route. Isn't the point of BGP that you don't have to
manually take care of routing updates?
Are there other backbones I need to call to make sure they see our routes?
Are there other backbones I need to call to make sure they see our routes?
It's an historical artifact. ANS still things the NSF gave them the
internet.
randy
Is it unreasonable of me to think it's awfully backwards of ANS.NET to
require anyone getting a new CIDR block to physically call ANS's NOC and
say "please listen to routes for this block from this AS"?
They obviously care even less about their network than we were previously
led to belive.
Except that you are *wrong*.
You'd have to register with the RADB (which your upstream should have done
for you if you got address space from them). If you have your own CIDR
block, then you should register with the RADB. Then make an AS-MACRO for
yourself. Then tell yout transiter to include your AS-Macro in theirs;
you're done.
-- This is not a endorsement of the RADB or the RA's; moreover, it's just
so you realize what is happening. See http://www.ra.net/ for more info.
> Is it unreasonable of me to think it's awfully backwards of ANS.NET to
> require anyone getting a new CIDR block to physically call ANS's NOC and
> say "please listen to routes for this block from this AS"?
They obviously care even less about their network than we were previously
led to belive.
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Based on some of the other replies I've gotten, it's clear I should have
elaborated I'm not an ANS customer. I could see them not taking BGP
routes for any random IP block from customers...but I'm a customer of
other backbones, and had to call ANS to say "please listen to X and Y
announcing routes for blah".
I told them on the phone...I'll just have to keep telling our customers
(some of which are ISPs) that ANS is down. 