I've seen a few strange instances where IP addresses in the AWS us-west-2 region (Oregon) are routed through Europe if you start the traceroute from some providers in the northern East Coast (Quebec, New York). Any idea what's going on? I assume it's temporary.
* florin@andrei.myip.org (Florin Andrei) [Fri 28 Apr 2017, 21:12 CEST]:
I've seen a few strange instances where IP addresses in the AWS us-west-2 region (Oregon) are routed through Europe if you start the traceroute from some providers in the northern East Coast (Quebec, New York). Any idea what's going on? I assume it's temporary.
Can you be a little bit more vague in your problem description? While ommitting the source networks from where you tried, you still included the destination. The list expects better.
-- Niels.
Sorry. Here's one source: 104.163.180.188
Hey Florin,
Do you have a traceroute showing the issue? FYI, you can test against any
of the IPs listed here under US-West-2, they all respond to ICMP requests.
http://ec2-reachability.amazonaws.com/
-Phil
Phil,
The traceroute was done by a coworker in Quebec on April 26, from one of our corporate offices. His IP address was probably 104.163.180.188 at the time. He was tracing one of our endpoints in AWS us-west-2; I do not know which IPs our endpoint had at the time, but one of its current IPs is 52.89.73.31
This is the trace as he described it:
Route
- #1: 2.7 ms
IP Address: 192.168.1.1
Hostname: local
TTL: 64
- #2: 34.8 ms
IP Address: 10.170.162.238
TTL: 50
- #3: 17.3 ms
IP Address: 10.170.192.53
TTL: 250
- #4: 16.7 ms
IP Address: 74.116.184.145
Hostname: 0.xe-11-1-0.er1.mtl7.ebox.ca
TTL: 249
AS Number: AS1403
AS Name: EBOX
Country Name: Canada
Country Code: CA
Time Zone: America/Toronto
Region: Quebec
City: Vieux-Saint-Laurent
Latitude: 45.475
Longitude: -73.696
- #5: 15.6 ms
IP Address: 213.248.76.201
Hostname: motl-b1-link.telia.net
TTL: 248
AS Number: AS1299
AS Name: Telia Company AB
Country Name: Europe
Country Code: EU
Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
- #6: 31.8 ms
IP Address: 62.115.134.52
Hostname: nyk-bb4-link.telia.net
TTL: 247
AS Number: AS1299
AS Name: Telia Company AB
Country Name: Europe
Country Code: EU
Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
- #7: 47.7 ms
IP Address: 213.155.136.19
Hostname: chi-b21-link.telia.net
TTL: 246
AS Number: AS1299
AS Name: Telia Company AB
Country Name: Europe
Country Code: EU
Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
- #8: 89.7 ms
IP Address: 62.115.117.48
Hostname: sea-b1-link.telia.net
TTL: 245
AS Number: AS1299
AS Name: Telia Company AB
Country Name: Europe
Country Code: EU
Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
- #9: 90.7 ms
IP Address: 62.115.34.102
Hostname: amazon-ic-302508-sea-b1.c.telia.net
TTL: 244
AS Number: AS1299
AS Name: Telia Company AB
Country Name: Europe
Country Code: EU
Time Zone: Europe/Vaduz
- #10: 86.3 ms
IP Address: 52.95.52.80
TTL: 239
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Washington
City: Seattle
Latitude: 47.634
Longitude: -122.342
- #11: 80.8 ms
IP Address: 52.95.52.97
TTL: 241
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Washington
City: Seattle
Latitude: 47.634
Longitude: -122.342
- #12: 86.1 ms
IP Address: 54.239.43.124
TTL: 240
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Washington
City: Seattle
Latitude: 47.610
Longitude: -122.334
- #13: 94.3 ms
IP Address: 52.93.13.12
TTL: 235
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Oregon
City: Boardman
Latitude: 45.870
Longitude: -119.688
- #14: 86.5 ms
IP Address: 52.93.12.249
TTL: 238
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Oregon
City: Boardman
Latitude: 45.870
Longitude: -119.688
- #15: 111.7 ms
IP Address: 52.93.12.140
TTL: 234
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Oregon
City: Boardman
Latitude: 45.870
Longitude: -119.688
- #16: 92.6 ms
IP Address: 52.93.12.173
TTL: 234
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Oregon
City: Boardman
Latitude: 45.870
Longitude: -119.688
- #17: 88.3 ms
IP Address: 52.93.15.217
TTL: 236
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: Oregon
City: Boardman
Latitude: 45.870
Longitude: -119.688
- #18: N/A
TTL: 0
We expected that trace to go straight East Coast / West Coast, but instead it went through Europe.
For comparison, this is a trace also by same coworker to api.postmates.com, which was correctly routed on the shortest geographical path (more or less):
Route
- #1: 3.0 ms
IP Address: 192.168.1.1
Hostname: local
TTL: 64
- #2: 29.0 ms
IP Address: 10.170.162.238
TTL: 50
- #3: 17.9 ms
IP Address: 10.170.192.53
TTL: 250
- #4: 19.7 ms
IP Address: 74.116.184.145
Hostname: 0.xe-11-1-0.er1.mtl7.ebox.ca
TTL: 249
AS Number: AS1403
AS Name: EBOX
Country Name: Canada
Country Code: CA
Time Zone: America/Toronto
Region: Quebec
City: Vieux-Saint-Laurent
Latitude: 45.475
Longitude: -73.696
- #5: 17.7 ms
IP Address: 96.127.249.30
TTL: 248
AS Number: AS1403
AS Name: EBOX
Country Name: Canada
Country Code: CA
Time Zone: America/Toronto
Region: Quebec
City: Longueuil
Latitude: 45.518
Longitude: -73.502
- #6: 18.0 ms
IP Address: 198.179.18.55
Hostname: cloudflare.peer.qix.ca
TTL: 247
Country Name: Canada
Country Code: CA
Time Zone: America/Toronto
Region: Quebec
City: Montreal
Latitude: 45.501
Longitude: -73.568
- #7: 17.6 ms
IP Address: 104.16.42.25
Hostname: api.postmates.com
TTL: 55
AS Number: AS13335
AS Name: CloudFlare
Country Name: United States
Country Code: US
Time Zone: America/Los_Angeles
Region: California
City: San Francisco
Latitude: 37.770
Longitude: -122.393
Is this still happening?
Thank You
Bob Evans
CTO
It hasn't gone through Europe, it's just most of Telia's IP space will return a geolocation of Europe. The trace provided goes to New York, Chicago then Seattle.
Just because a "fancy" traceroute tool does ARIN, RIPE or APNIC lookups, or
uses a third party geolocation tool such as Maxmind to determine who owns a
given netblock, does not mean that each hop of the traceroute is going
through that country...
It's just saying "this block of IPs is owned by Telia, which is based in
Europe". If you look at the reverse DNS for the route they have used fairly
common abbreviations to denote that this link goes city-to-city within
North America.
Also you would probably notice if your end to end latency from Quebec to
Oregon was taking a round trip through Europe. I bet your RTT ping to the
end point AWS IP in Oregon is low enough that the currently known laws of
physics would prohibit it from taking a round trip through an atlantic
cable and back again.
That's embarrassing. Thanks for opening my eyes.
Sorry for wasting everyone's time.