Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

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So in cases like this where the community appears to agree that there's
a consistently bad apple, what's preventing everyone from simply
nullrouting the netblocks in question and imposing the death penalty?

Sorry if this seems naive, but if no legitimate purpose is shown it
seems like the obvious thing to do. Maybe they could still *send*
packets, but nothing would ever get back to them.

_H*

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hobbit@avian.org (*Hobbit*) writes:

So in cases like this where the community appears to agree that there's
a consistently bad apple, what's preventing everyone from simply
nullrouting the netblocks in question and imposing the death penalty?

DROP - Don't Route or Peer lists - The Spamhaus Project seems to have atrivo on it.

Sorry if this seems naive, but if no legitimate purpose is shown it
seems like the obvious thing to do. Maybe they could still *send*
packets, but nothing would ever get back to them.

legitimacy is in the mind of the beholder of course.

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"what's preventing everyone"?

Geez Hobbit, I *know* you've been around long enough to know better than that :slight_smile:

We can't get a clear majority of providers to do BCP38, you expect them to
apply a null route? And then to know to *remove* it once the problem withers
up? :wink:

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Dunno - but something did occur to me this morning on the drive into work:

Maybe there's another approach to this problem. Maybe, rather than having the antispam/virus vendors do non-real world lab tests we could get them all to donate some kit to whomever is the unlucky transit-provider du jour and see how well it works providing a nice clean feed and who's better at it? :wink:

MMC

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Looks like PIE got themselves a /22 in spamhaus -

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL67906

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206.223.144.0/22 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)

17-Sep-2008 09:57 GMT | SR04

Pacific Internet Exchange LLC. NT Technology ; nttec.com

http://cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS32335

Hosted/routed Scott Richter AND Alan Ralsky - now decided to pick up
Intercage/Atrivo. Perhaps someone does not read the news?

http://news.google.com/news?q=intercage
http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=636

We hope that's the case and this is not a knowing routing decision.