Anyone from FASTWEB please get back to me offline.
This page for fastweb (from an ISP in Africa) plus Ernest / Afrinic's
post asking people to update bogon filters for 41/8 .. both related.
Reason - fastweb provides NAT'ted ADSL lines to its users. And its
users get IPs from 41/8 (among other /8s) - which was unallocated when
they originally started using it for their dsl pool instead of using
RFC1918 IPs like everybody else does.
Fastweb seems to think 41/8 is a dsl pool for its users in Turin
- 1/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Milano
- 2/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Milano Hinterland NORD
- 5/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Genova
- 14/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Milano Hinterland SUD
- 23/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Roma
- 29/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN del Triveneto
- 31/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Bari
- 37/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Bologna
- 39/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Napoli
- 41/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Torino
- 42/8 -> IP assegnati alla MAN di Reggio Emilia
Indeed. But that list is a bit old, they are also using 59/8 (in use
in the APNIC region) and a few private DoD networks like 26/8 and 29/8:
http://plany.fasthosting.it/dbmap.asp?table=Mappatura
Some customers tried complaining, but I understand that this did not
have any effect.
md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) writes:
Bj�rn Mork wrote:
md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) writes:
Fastweb seems to think 41/8 is a dsl pool for its users in Turin
Indeed. But that list is a bit old, they are also using 59/8 (in use
in the APNIC region) and a few private DoD networks like 26/8 and 29/8:http://plany.fasthosting.it/dbmap.asp?table=Mappatura
Some customers tried complaining, but I understand that this did not
have any effect.
I take it that this means we can use any ip range allocated to Fastweb
as if it were RFC1918 space, including the necessary border filters?Bj�rn
Bj�rn,
I'd personally contract to build a moat around their NOC for Homeland Security reasons using as many backhoes as I could get on short notice.
Andrew
> I take it that this means we can use any ip range allocated to Fastweb
> as if it were RFC1918 space, including the necessary border filters?
I'd personally contract to build a moat around their NOC for Homeland
Security reasons using as many backhoes as I could get on short notice.
I would strongly advise against such actions.
European governments take a dim view of terrorist
activities and some countries such as Italy are
particularly sensitive about this. I'm surprised
that an American on an Internet operations mailing
list would be promoting terrorist activity in
another NATO member country.
In any case, you can't CONTRACT to do this. The
law does not consider an agreement to perform
illegal acts to be a contract. The action you describe
is clearly illegal, therefore it cannot be contracted
for.
--Michael Dillon
P.S. this is NANOG, not IRC