AS-701 multihop BGP peering session?

I hate using NANOG as a NOC of last resort, but it looks like this is
my best option.

We recently migrated our IP connectivity to UU-Net/MCI/whatever you
want to call them these days. I've migrated the majority of our
BGP topology collection feeds to the new IP space (anyone want to give
us your routes?) and decided that now we're a UU-Net customer, I'd
try to get a feed from UU-Net.

Apparently they only want to feed our border router, not the
route collection host.

If anyone has any suggestions on who to deal with at UU-Net that might
have a little more clue on this type of situation, it would be appreciated.

I don't believe that AS701 does it. I seem to recall this from
hearing about some very complicated process that had to be completed
for route-views.oregon-ix.net to get their AS701 feed.

  This may no longer be the case but seeings as the feed isn't
there anymore, i'm guessing they still don't do this.

  Make your cpe router speak bgp with them, then have that peer
with your collector.

  - jared

AS701 has a published policy of never initiating BGP
sessions with multihop > 2.

I'd be very surprised if you're able to get them to
change it for you: once you're in the multihop world,
security and load issues become more complex, and
large networks don't particularly want to deal with
those headaches if they can help it. Maybe you could
offer to pay them more per hop? :wink:

-David Barak
no I DON'T work for AS 701 anymore...

Or tunnel it from your edge to only give 2 hops :slight_smile:

I don't believe that AS701 does it. I seem to recall this from

hearing about some very complicated process that had to be completed
for route-views.oregon-ix.net to get their AS701 feed.

  This may no longer be the case but seeings as the feed isn't
there anymore, i'm guessing they still don't do this.

I know for a fact that it can be done. I have had this set up with AS701
when we were a customer (>4 years ago). Everything about our set up with
them was very specific and broke a lot of their rules because of the kind of
usage we were putting on them -- they made a lot of exceptions for us. I am
sure none of the guys that were helpful then are still there now, and
moreover, I am not sure if it was because of our size that they were able to
make the exception. I am just chiming in because I know that the exception
has been made on more than one occassion for us. In fact, we have had BGP
views (EBGP-multihop) from several core routers backhauled to us at
different times, and for different reasons. This is all ancient history
though.

Deepak Jain
AiNET