ARIN allocating /20 netblocks?

Jeremiah Kristal wrote:
> ARIN has made a slight change to make it easier for small ISPs to get
> provider independant netblocks. They will assign a /20 and reserve the
> adjacent /20, the customer is allowed to announce the entire /19.
> For further information, please view http://www.arin.net/initial-isp.html

Now, let's `cat post | bullshitfilter.pl` and see what we get:

ARIN has made a slight change to make it easier for them to make more
money by allowing anyone to register for IPs. They will assign a /20 and
reserve the adjacent /20...

$

Ahh, that makes more sense now.

ARIN just can't win with some people :slight_smile: If we don't change policy, we're
evil....if we do, we're greedy. *sigh*

Kim

Jeremiah Kristal wrote:

<snip>

ARIN has made a slight change to make it easier for them to make more
money by allowing anyone to register for IPs. They will assign a /20 and
reserve the adjacent /20...

<snip>

ARIN just can't win with some people :slight_smile: If we don't change policy, we're
evil....if we do, we're greedy. *sigh*

If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I'm wrong here), ARIN is a
Non-profit organization. This classification generally means something to
the effect that they can't make more money.

So, if they begin taking in more revenues due to an increased use of thier
services, they must either spend those revenues, or reduce the price of the
services.

Of course increased usage might mean that they may have to add more
hardware/Software/People, etc.

<here is where I may be seriously wrong, however....>

I do believe that members have a say into how this is resolved, by acting
through one of the governing boards?

-Chris

The only problem I can see people possibly having is that a small ISP
might get stuck with an extra $2500 ARIN fee. i.e.

Year 1) Joe small ISP utilizes a /21 and applies for a CIDR block. ARIN
allocates them a /20 from reserved /19 ($2500 fee up front).

Year 2) Joe small ISP fills up their /20 and applies for the other half of
their reserved /19. They owe ARIN $2500 since they received space (as a
small ISP) the year before.

Year 3) Joe small ISP owes another $2500 because they received space (the
top of their /19) in the previous year.

So...they've effectively spent $7500 for a /19 instead of the $5000 it
would have cost had they been big enough to qualify for the whole block at
once.

BTW...the ARIN site says "The annual subscription fee will be based on the
total allocation of address space received in the previous year." Does
this mean calendar year, or year worth of time starting at the ISP's first
ARIN allocation?

Read the bylaws.

Then explain how the membership, if it gets upset, removes a Board of
Trustee or Advisory Council member, using the procedure(s) set forth
in the bylaws, if any.

In most corporate structures the members or stockholders (depending on
if we're dealing with a 501c or a for-profit) can fire the members of
the Board - either collectively or individually.

ARIN's bylaws are on the web site http://www.arin.net, and are publically
visible.