AOL Mail updates DMARC policy to 'reject'

Thought i would throw this out there.
http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/

-Grant

Curious I unleashed grep on a couple of mailing lists I operate.

I turned up one AOL address.

I'm not saying my data is representative of the Internet, but I remember a time
when they were 50% of the addresses on my mailing lists.

Aol doesn't have a lot of mail users for me anymore either, but I don't have a lot of retail users on my lists.

Jared Mauch

I doubt the largest list I manage is representative of anything beyond
an insane asylum, but out of 900-950, there are SIX of those laying
around. Those are all addresses receiving email (I looked at the logs,
just to verify). You just never know.

Keep in mind that mailing list membership is heavily dependent on
demographics of their common interest. Many mailing lists that folks
on this list run themselves are likely to be technical in nature, and
therefore less likely to have @aol.com address.

On the other hand, I belong to a club for people who collect license
plates. They tend to be older. 11% (320 of them) are active AOL
users.

Royce

We run several mailing lists for customers. We frequently get feedback
reports from AOL saying that the AOL user has flagged the message as
spam. So, we remove said user from the list. They then complain that
they have been removed and swear that they didn't do it. Anyone have a
handle on what this is about?

Steve

Once upon a time, Steven Saner <ssaner@hubris.net> said:

We run several mailing lists for customers. We frequently get feedback
reports from AOL saying that the AOL user has flagged the message as
spam. So, we remove said user from the list. They then complain that
they have been removed and swear that they didn't do it. Anyone have a
handle on what this is about?

That has been a problem basically as long as AOL has had the feedback
loop. The theory is that some AOL users use "This is spam" as a delete
button; apparently at one point the buttons were right next to each
other (making it an easy accident).

Thought i would throw this out there.

Curious I unleashed grep on a couple of mailing lists I operate.

I turned up one AOL address.

I'm not saying my data is representative of the Internet, but I
remember a time when they were 50% of the addresses on my mailing
lists.

I doubt the largest list I manage is representative of anything beyond
an insane asylum, but out of 900-950, there are SIX of those laying
around. Those are all addresses receiving email (I looked at the logs,
just to verify). You just never know.

Keep in mind that mailing list membership is heavily dependent on
demographics of their common interest. Many mailing lists that folks
on this list run themselves are likely to be technical in nature, and
therefore less likely to have @aol.com address.

On the other hand, I belong to a club for people who collect license
plates. They tend to be older. 11% (320 of them) are active AOL
users.

Royce

We run several mailing lists for customers. We frequently get feedback
reports from AOL saying that the AOL user has flagged the message as
spam. So, we remove said user from the list. They then complain that
they have been removed and swear that they didn't do it. Anyone have a
handle on what this is about?

It's a user interface problem. marked messages disappear. aol user
employees this in lieu of mailbox filtering. it could have been fixed a
decade ago.

Forged address book spam? AOL's been taking a beating on that front lately.

-Jim P.

Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Steven Saner <ssaner@hubris.net> said:

We run several mailing lists for customers. We frequently get feedback
reports from AOL saying that the AOL user has flagged the message as
spam. So, we remove said user from the list. They then complain that
they have been removed and swear that they didn't do it. Anyone have a
handle on what this is about?

That has been a problem basically as long as AOL has had the feedback
loop. The theory is that some AOL users use "This is spam" as a delete
button; apparently at one point the buttons were right next to each
other (making it an easy accident).

I still see this one, both accidentally and intentionally (I'm not interested in this topic, so it's spam.)

Most of the lists I run are small - parent-teacher organizations, churches, and such - and I generally warn people about hitting the spam button, then I drop them if they do it again.

Miles Fidelman

I see this very frequently -- dozens of times per day -- for all manner of
things, including receipts for fairly expensive state government licenses
and permits. I can't imagine anyone intentionally marking these as spam, but
certainly can see a finger check causing the problem.