Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

Hello,

I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
datacenter near my house that has colocation:

http://imgur.com/a/PdGno

It's in Somers Point, NJ. While I could not find an address on the
building, it is on the corner of Bethel Rd and N New Rd. I've tried
walking around back to see if I could talk to anyone about colocation
but could not find anyone outside. I've also tried calling Verizon but
support wasn't very helpful. My question is, what does it take to get
some colocation space inside of that building? Me and my roommate both
have a 1u we'd like to rack and having it racked in a datacenter
walking distance from where we live would be awesome. What we'd need:

2u space
4 power drops for the servers (2 psu per server)
2 100Mbps ethernet drops with static IPs

I'm not sure if that's too little to ask for colocation or not, but
that really is all we'd need. Is there anyone about that knows what
we'd need to acquire such space, cost, badging, etc? If so, can you
please reply offlist?

Thanks,

John M

Hello,

I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
datacenter near my house that has colocation:

how / why did you think this has colocation?

Hello,

I'm a techie that recently moved to South Jersey for a tech job. To my
astonishment, I discovered that there appears to be a Verizon
datacenter near my house that has colocation:

how / why did you think this has colocation?

if you search for somers point in there this looks like a Central
office which might offer future physical (future from 2012)
colocation, but I bet you'd have to be a CLEC to take advantage of
this...

It looks more like a standard telco central office, not a data center.

Lyle

Be prepared to drop a lot of money for colocation with Verizon. Also,
quoting process is rather long and you will have to sign a NDA most likely,
which just makes it even more fun. For the size of your project I'd pick a
provider that focuses on colocation for small and medium businesses and is
easier to work with.

...

There was once a time we were going to colo in a VZ facility within
the same building our primary datacenter was (to receive favorable
rates on cross-connects, etc).

There was signing of NDAs, it took the better part of half a year for
build out.

Then it was announced ready to move in, and we asked the procedure to
get cross-connects from outside the facility in (really the whole
point of even getting colo there).

Oh no, you can't have a cross-connect.

Umm, the only reason we're doing this is to cross-connect to the colo.
The sales people knew this from the start, and was a key provision.
But the site manager was adamant, nothing comes in or out.

I guess VZ thought the colo was ultimately to stand alone without
talking to anybody. And they are a communications company.

Boggle.

There was signing of NDAs

Which you obviously read and follow to the letter :wink:

alan

And there-in lies the answer to your question. They're a communications
company. They want to sell you communications services. They don't want you
to buy communications services from other providers.

If you want to provide your own communications circuits, don't buy datacentre
space from a communications company.

Simon

I'm told second hand that when MCI/worldcom (now Verizon Business)
controlled 8100 Boone Blvd (the early MAE-East) you had to buy a data
circuit from them to get between floors. Not a cable or a
cross-connect. A data circuit at the 0-mile tariffed price.

I know first hand that when I bought a Verizon Business data circuit
at a carrier-neutral colo and asked them to move the IP addresses from
my Verizon Business colo to the data circuit, they refused. It took me
longer but I canceled the colo anyway. And the circuit too. Jerks.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

Hah! Well, like I said, I had it second hand. Stories do grow in the telling.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

Look at the second picture, the sign on the door more specifically. :slight_smile:

-- John Musbach

Ohh ok. I suppose that colo entrance being for CLECs would make sense
haha. Too much of a dream for a general population colocation
datacenter to be near residential I guess. Was worth a try.

-- John Musbach

P.S. If there was any way to get a tour inside of there at least I'd
totally sign a NDA for that. :slight_smile: Never been inside, let alone near, a
CO before.

-- John Musbach

http://museumofcommunications.org/?page_id=12

There are three parts of a #5 Crossbar switch for which I have a special fondness:

The exerciser routine--late at night in a (sometimes spooky) dark, quiet office you hear a clicking noise that come up from behind you and passes on into the distance in front of you, After a bit, you realize that it is approaching again....and again, each time a little lower down as the exerciser operated EVERY crosspoint in the office, one at a time.

The Transverter -- a monument to the Perfect Kludge.

The Trouble Recorder -- a card-punch that punches a card every time a call fails, to record all of the equipment (and some other stuff) that was involved in the call. The cards were BIG (4 inches by 16 inches, maybe) and I have no idea what the number of possible hole locations was and had printed on-the card a cryptic notation as to what each hole meant. The most interesting thing was the fact that there were notations on both sides of the card--a given hole had two meanings depending on which side of the card the hole had been punched it. Thye first thing you looked at was two holes (I forget what one of the markings was, bit one hole said "AMA" on one side and "Turn Card Over" on the other side. (I was not a switchman, so the number of errors possible here us huge.)

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P.S. If there was any way to get a tour inside of there at least I'd
totally sign a NDA for that. :slight_smile: Never been inside, let alone near, a
CO before.

http://museumofcommunications.org/?page_id=12

There are three parts of a #5 Crossbar switch for which I have a special
fondness:

The exerciser routine--late at night in a (sometimes spooky) dark, quiet
office you hear a clicking noise that come up from behind you and
passes on into the distance in front of you, After a bit, you realize
that it is approaching again....and again, each time a little lower down
as the exerciser operated EVERY crosspoint in the office, one at a time.

The Transverter -- a monument to the Perfect Kludge.

The Trouble Recorder -- a card-punch that punches a card every time a
call fails, to record all of the equipment (and some other stuff) that
was involved in the call. The cards were BIG (4 inches by 16 inches,
maybe) and I have no idea what the number of possible hole locations was
and had printed on-the card a cryptic notation as to what each hole
meant. The most interesting thing was the fact that there were
notations on both sides of the card--a given hole had two meanings
depending on which side of the card the hole had been punched it. Thye
first thing you looked at was two holes (I forget what one of the
markings was, bit one hole said "AMA" on one side and "Turn Card Over"
on the other side. (I was not a switchman, so the number of errors
possible here us huge.)

I didn't realise that there was a relevant picture in the museum set -- http://museumofcommunications.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/DSC_7116-1024x680.jpg shows severak of those cards on shelves, and in the near fore-ground is the bins used for sorting cards for further investigation (one of the "investigation" steps was to take a deck of cards for a similar failure and hold the deck up to the light to see if a single piece of equipment had been involved in every failure (hole goes through the deck).

oriiginal view of the door sign was not readable... had to do some
work to see 'co locators entrance'. Bet this means 'clec entrance'
(they probably forgot to include the hours of operation: 9-4, lunch
11-3)

I cant say much about other incumbents but i have been in alot of vz co's
in nj/nyc and Its very rare to see any humans in a CO anymore even in ones
in really dense metro areas

I cant say much about other incumbents but i have been in alot of vz co's
in nj/nyc and Its very rare to see any humans in a CO anymore even in ones
in really dense metro areas

The majority of ILEC COs I've seen are unstaffed these days, save for the rare occasion where something needs to be physically touched. CLECs are sometimes a different story because they might only have one physical CO in a given LATA.

jms

If the building is over 30 years old I can guarantee you it is at least 75% empty now.