Like many people, I can't justify the expense of "commercial" IP
connectivity for my residence. As a result, I deal with dynamic IP
addresses; dns issues; and limitations on the services that I can host
at my residence. It just struck me that in the same way that
IPv6 connectivity can be done via tunneling over IPv4 (Hurricane
Electric, etc.), that static IPv4 addressability could be offered in a
similar fashion.
Some my question is:
Does anyone offer (probably bandwidth restricted) IPv4 over IPv4
tunneling (with static IPs) commercially?
I realize that making use of such a service MIGHT violate Terms of
Service agreements, but that is going to vary from provider to
provider and doesn't make offering such a service inherently wrong.
Other possible reasons such services might be desired include wanting
access to Internet services which are regionally restricted. (Again
TOS violation possibilities MAY or MAY NOT apply.)
In the (very?) long term, IPv4 over IPv6 tunneling could end up being
one way that organizations can get IPv4 connectivity when the default
changes from only-IPv4 to only-IPv6. (Yeah, I know that day may never
come...)
Thanks,
Bill Bogstad
http://www.google.com/search?q=vpn+service
Encryption would be a side benefit for your purpose.
Holly shit... Where do you live? In Ukraine we have almost no
difference (well it is different from one company to another) between
commercial and residental setups. At least it is so with smaller
providers like one I have at home and one I work for (they are two
different companies).
So it seems very very strange to me you need to justify anything with
your network operator.
Like many people, I can't justify the expense of "commercial" IP
connectivity for my residence. As a result, I deal with dynamic IP
addresses; dns issues; and limitations on the services that I can host
at my residence.
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Not sure where you live / what service is available to you but many
"business" DSL, cable and fixed-wireless offerings are quite
reasonably priced these days. I pay about $100/mo for 16m x 2m and a
/28 from my local cable operator - which is likely less than
residential service plus a vpn/tunnel service. It sure isn't a fiber
metro-E connection but it does let me run my various servers out of
the house. Perhaps something to look into.
$0.02
~Chris
In most of the US, the standard residential ISP service gives you
- some amount of bandwidth, usually asynchronous
- dynamic IP address (with static available for a higher price)
- some service quality and repair speed guarantees
- many ISPs, especially cable modem, have annoying policies that say
you can't run a server at home. But many don't.
- some ISPs are starting to get the idea tha
Most of the ISPs that provide that kind of service offer business
service using the residential technology
- higher price
- better service quality and repair speed guarantees
- static IP addresses, and you can run a server
You could do this with a VPS. Make sure they run Xen or KVM or VMware
though, so you have control over the routing table.
William
- many ISPs, especially cable modem, have annoying policies that say
you can't run a server at home. But many don't.
Right. Often, this is due to a combination of technology limitations -- with DSL, upstream and downstream bandwidths are tradeoffs; with cable modems, limited upstream bandwidth is inherent in the technology -- coupled with an obsolete model that assumes that consumers mostly download.
Besides, if you can charge more for business service, why not...?
--Steve Bellovin, Steven M. Bellovin
North America. Specifically the Boston metro area of the USA. It's
fairly common here to put all kinds of type of service restrictions on
residential Internet connectivity. From what I've read on NANOG over
the years, I thought this was common practice worldwide, but it sounds
like that might not be the case in the Ukraine.
Thanks,
Bill Bogstad
I'm using Comcast's business-class service. ~$110 per month for 22mbit down, 5mbit up and a /29.
This would definitely be your best bet as opposed to trying to rig up a tunneled setup. You can also get their 12mbit down, 2mbit up service with a /29 for $79, iirc.
LoL... I'm using that same service (without the /29 for $10/month) as transport for my
tunneled setup.
Owen
I've had no problems with it. Seems to be much better than the
residential service. The /29 was only $10? I must be getting jipped,
I'm paying $20.
Tim Burke
630.617.1300 Cell
tb@tburke.us Email