Alpha test of MAE filtering capability

IMHO, as long as money is involved, and as long as someone thinks that
they have a chance of getting away with something, they will try it.

Entirely agreed. On the other hand I have what is turning out to be a
unique (here) point of view about this. I don't want to prevent this
kind of theft -- I want to discover it, and remove perpetrators from any
IXP where they try it. I don't want to block it. I want to ensure that
it is never tried twice. I appear to be in the minority wrt this view.

On the other hand I have what is turning out to be a unique (here) point
of view about this. I don't want to prevent this kind of theft -- I want
to discover it, and remove perpetrators from any IXP where they try it. I
don't want to block it. I want to ensure that it is never tried twice. I
appear to be in the minority wrt this view.

Currently, the cost of discovery is high. The cost of prevention, where it
can be done, PAIX, is low. The result is predictable.

randy

No not entirely. We have been at two NAPs for nearly two years. We have over
60 peers now and have never abused those relationships. I would like to think
that we are in the majority and that those that fail to meet those standards
should be expelled not filtered.

--david

David S. Holub
President CTO
Whole Earth Networks
(Hooked & The WeLL)

Paul's view of the problem is more long term in that it seeks to end
the problem once and for all. I think Chris sees the prophylactic
solution as serving his immediate self intrust.

If ISPs at a multiple meet points work together it can make the
later solution far more effective. Point is ... we need to cooperate
to eliminate those who put short term profit above the health of the
industry. A healthy Internet makes us better off.

> IMHO, as long as money is involved, and as long as someone

thinks that

> they have a chance of getting away with something, they will try

it.

Entirely agreed. On the other hand I have what is turning out to

be a

unique (here) point of view about this. I don't want to prevent

this

kind of theft -- I want to discover it, and remove perpetrators

from any

IXP where they try it. I don't want to block it. I want to

ensure that

it is never tried twice. I appear to be in the minority wrt this

view.

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Entirely agreed. On the other hand I have what is turning out to be a
   unique (here) point of view about this. I don't want to prevent this
   kind of theft -- I want to discover it, and remove perpetrators from any
   IXP where they try it. I don't want to block it. I want to ensure that
   it is never tried twice. I appear to be in the minority wrt this view.

Locks keep honest people honest.

Tony

Locks challenge thieves even more.

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