Allocation of IP Addresses

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Yes, well there is no other way of doing it. The days of starting a ISP
out of your house and in a few years be a Sprint is falling away. ISP's
will just need to get space from there upstream provider and renumber.

How many times is it reasonable to ask a customer to renumber? Once is
certainly reasonable. Twice is questionable. More than that and I would
suspect the customer would renumber all right, but as part of shifting to a
different ISP.

As many as it takes, This is just something you are going to need to deal
with. We started with small blocks and had to renumber several times so
far. It is just part of growing, until you are a large NSP connected to
all the NAPs you will just need to start will small blocks and renumber
over and over until you get /18 or smaller.

  This strikes me as being discriminatory against the smaller ISPs. The
customers are looking for stability and, from their point of view, being
forced to renumber several times along with the ISP is unstable and costly.
They'll look to ISPs who will not force them to renumber, the ones with a
/18 or smaller already.

  Do you truly believe there is no way to avoid the forced renumbering
problem for the smaller ISPs?

-David

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  This strikes me as being discriminatory against the smaller ISPs. The
customers are looking for stability and, from their point of view, being
forced to renumber several times along with the ISP is unstable and costly.
They'll look to ISPs who will not force them to renumber, the ones with a
/18 or smaller already.

There always will be disadvantages of being small. This is true in every
market.

  Do you truly believe there is no way to avoid the forced renumbering
problem for the smaller ISPs?

There is no way to avoid renumbering. Every other plausible proposal I've
seen have been renumbering under a different guise.

-dorian

3

Look, I know what it is like to be a small ISP, I am still one. I started
my company as a high school project with my Dad's credit card. I think a
lot of ISP get into this thinking it is a easy way to make big bucks. You
you can, but it is hard, and you will need to renumber several times.
They need to just live with it, or get 10 mill and get the NIC to give
you a /18.

Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World!