Greetings - Here's what we've lined up so far for the Oct. 24-25 NANOG
agenda:
- vBNS Update
- Future router requirements
- Multihoming pros and cons
- Economics of Internet resource allocation
Are there other topics you'd like to hear about?
Are there other topics you'd like to hear about?
How about
Analysis of Actual End to End Performance accross the NAPs/MAEs
To be given by each operator?
(as opposed to "everything is wonderful because we dropped no packets across
ten feet of level-2 wire")
randy
Randy,
I'm not sure we can provide the type of quantitative data your looking
for but we can discuss/present qualitative measures we are taking to
improve interconnectivity (i.e. more bandwidth).
Jim
Hi Jim,
I'm not sure we can provide the type of quantitative data your looking
for but we can discuss/present qualitative measures we are taking to
improve interconnectivity (i.e. more bandwidth).
The problem is that NANOG presentations always say how good it is and how
much better it is about to be. Not to pick on NAP ops, the NSPa and ISPs
have as well. We all do it. But the end customers are saying how bad it
is, and that it is getting worse.
Maybe it is time to get real metrics and real measurements of the different
pieces, so we can see where things are fine, where we have current problems,
and where problems could be in the future.
No, this is not an instant job. No, it will not be an easy job. But with
end users whining, and ill-informed press sensationalizing, it's getting
hard to sit through NANOG presentations where everybody says how wonderful
it all is.
As a community of operators, it would be cool to deal with real operational
metrics, not marketing glossies. And if we have to shut the press out, or
go to a more 'safe' forum, then that's cool too.
We need more Vern Paxson and less rose colored glasses.
randy
This goes beyond just public interconnects. If you are one level removed from
NSP level, the status and performance of private interconnects between various
NSPs become a subject of great deal of interest.
Here, the general dearth of information about performance and status gets even
worse than it is with public exchange points.
I wonder if this is something involved parties (MCI, Sprint, UUNet and ANS)
are willing to talk about, given that I've noticed some degradation on
performance across some of these private interconnects already.. (and it's
only been couple of months since they came online!)
I understand that these are private arrangements between involved parties, but
given their importance, it would be a great service to the community if the
involved parties could share some information.
-dorian