aads renumbering rumor and implications

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i am told that aads seems to be planning to renumber, seemingly as there is
some service charge for the address space they do not wish to pay. please
correct/confirm.

should this be true and a real issue,

  o will folk be happy renumbering at larger exchanges?

  o does anyone see why the exchange address space needs to be globally
    routable?

randy

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Traceroute.

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i am told that aads seems to be planning to renumber, seemingly as there is
some service charge for the address space they do not wish to pay. please
correct/confirm.

should this be true and a real issue,

  i have received the attached email. as it is not marked
  confidential I have attached it here for review.

  o will folk be happy renumbering at larger exchanges?

  quite.

  o does anyone see why the exchange address space needs to be globally
    routable?

  no.

  in fact, i believe nsps should use bilaterally provided unique address
  space at public exchange points, to model private
  interconnections, though the public fabric is shred.

  ie - instead of using 198.32.136.x/24, a network should use
  a.b.c.d/30, where a.b.c.d/30 comes out of one, or the other,
  peer's address space.

  the maes and naps are no longer the center of the internet, and
  therefore mae/nap reachability is of little consequence.

  -alan

aads (5.75 KB)

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o does anyone see why the exchange address space needs to be globally
   routable?

Traceroute.

as the fabric is used for peering under bi-lats, if we each announce the
mesh to our customers and not to our peers, then i believe you will have
your tracroutes and yet the prefix does not have to be globally routable,
e.g. could be 209.666.42/24.

randy

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Holdon, i don't even see the need for that; if you traceroute out, the
packets will cross the exchange irregardless of whether you're announcing
it to your customers, and a message of TTL exceeded will be generated
from the exchange's address.. The important question is, should they
be globally UNIQUE for troubleshooting purposes? I think so.

Mike

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Unless someone knows differently, the renumbering at AADS been called
off.
(Enough people signed up to pay for the space, independent of AADS
operations)

  At least, this is true according to Bill Manning.

  (As if *he* knows anything :wink:

  . Ciaou .