1.0.0.0/8 route from MERIT ?

Today I jumped into one of our routers, and I found that 1.0.0.0/8 is
announced from AS237, which is MERIT.

    Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*> 1.0.0.0/8 4.59.200.5 0 60 0 (65001
65105) 3356 7018 237 i

Is this supposed to be?
I thought 1.0.0.0/8 is allocated to APNIC.

Alex

I am seeing the same thing:

1.0.0.0/8 *[BGP/170] 3d 13:48:10, MED 0, localpref 100, from 206.223.138.126
                       AS path: 3549 7018 237 I

IIRC, there was an email/wiki/announcement last month about 1/8
undergoing some testing soon.

-Jim P.

http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.txt

extract from that, last update 22/feb/2010:

Prefix Designation Date
Whois Status [1] Note
   000/8 IANA - Local Identification 1981-09 RESERVED [2]
   001/8 APNIC 2010-01 whois.apnic.net ALLOCATED
   002/8 RIPE NCC 2009-09 whois.ripe.net ALLOCATED

See the APNIC WHOIS for 1.0.0.0/8:

route: 1.0.0.0/8
descr: MERIT Network Inc.
                1000 Oakbrook Drive, Suite 200
                Ann Arbor
                MI 48104, USA
origin: AS237
mnt-by: MAINT-AS237
remarks: This announcement is part of an APNIC approved
experiment. For additional
                information please send email to mkarir@merit.edu

This would appear related to Manish Karir's e-mail on the "How polluted
is 1/8" thread from 06 FEB 2010 (Message-ID:
<609933721.3935701265474878472.JavaMail.root@crono>).

Regards,
Tim Wilde

- --
Tim Wilde, Senior Software Engineer, Team Cymru, Inc.
twilde@cymru.com | +1-630-230-5433 | http://www.team-cymru.org/

Yes, this is supposed to be. This is one of a number of planned experiments in advertising all and selected parts of 1/8 in the coming weeks.

Geoff Huston
APNIC

Are these from youtube also?

1.1.1.0/24 *[BGP/170] 07:04:22, MED 0, localpref 100
                      AS path: 2914 3356 36561 I
1.2.3.0/24 *[BGP/170] 07:01:21, MED 0, localpref 100
                      AS path: 2914 3356 36561 I

  tomoya

Hi,

As I noted in the previous note quoted below, APNIC are undertaking a second experiment with these two /24 routes originated by AS 36561. These two /24s appear to be the major attractors in the 1.0.0.0/8 space. YouTube have generously provided assistance for this second experiment, and we are very grateful for their help!

  Geoff Huston
  APNIC

Thank you Geoff.

I asked because I could see 1/8 of merit AS237 but couldn't see
of origin AS36561 for those two in database.
Even if it's an experiment and sort term, It's better to be registerd
in right origin I think. # It could be guessed but...

When RPKI comes, is it no problem??

  -tomoya

Thank you Geoff.

I asked because I could see 1/8 of merit AS237 but couldn't see
of origin AS36561 for those two in database.
Even if it's an experiment and sort term, It's better to be registerd
in right origin I think. # It could be guessed but...

which databases?

morrowc@localhost:~$ whois -h rr.arin.net 1.2.3.0
% This is the ARIN Routing Registry.

% Note: this output has been filtered.

% Information related to '1.2.3.0/24AS36561'

route: 1.2.3.0/24
descr: YouTube, Inc.
descr: 901 Cherry Ave
descr: San Bruno, CA 94066
descr: US
origin: AS36561
mnt-by: MNT-YOUTU
source: ARIN # Filtered

morrowc@localhost:~$ whois -h rr.arin.net 1.1.1.0
% This is the ARIN Routing Registry.

% Note: this output has been filtered.

% Information related to '1.1.1.0/24AS36561'

route: 1.1.1.0/24
descr: YouTube, Inc.
descr: 901 Cherry Ave
descr: San Bruno, CA 94066
descr: US
origin: AS36561
mnt-by: MNT-YOUTU
source: ARIN # Filtered

These ought to then get around to other IRR-ish-things when their
propogation times hit, yes?

-Chris

Christopher Morrow wrote:

  

Thank you Geoff.

I asked because I could see 1/8 of merit AS237 but couldn't see
of origin AS36561 for those two in database.
Even if it's an experiment and sort term, It's better to be registerd
in right origin I think. # It could be guessed but...
    
which databases?

morrowc@localhost:~$ whois -h rr.arin.net 1.2.3.0
% This is the ARIN Routing Registry.

% Note: this output has been filtered.

% Information related to '1.2.3.0/24AS36561'

route: 1.2.3.0/24
descr: YouTube, Inc.
descr: 901 Cherry Ave
descr: San Bruno, CA 94066
descr: US
origin: AS36561
mnt-by: MNT-YOUTU
source: ARIN # Filtered

morrowc@localhost:~$ whois -h rr.arin.net 1.1.1.0
% This is the ARIN Routing Registry.

% Note: this output has been filtered.

% Information related to '1.1.1.0/24AS36561'

route: 1.1.1.0/24
descr: YouTube, Inc.
descr: 901 Cherry Ave
descr: San Bruno, CA 94066
descr: US
origin: AS36561
mnt-by: MNT-YOUTU
source: ARIN # Filtered

These ought to then get around to other IRR-ish-things when their
propogation times hit, yes?

-Chris
  
     I'm not positive that this is still the case, but I believe that
there can be quite a bit of latency in mirroring due to the
way RIPE database code (which ARIN uses) works. The
last object(s) registered are not pushed to the mirror stream until
the next object(s) are registered. I believe RIPE regularly pushes
a dummy object in order to keep it's mirrors more regularly
synced. I don't think that ARIN does this. It's a bigger issue
for ARIN as their routing registry is updated less frequently
than the RIPE routing registry.

    According to our logs, the objects were not mirrored on
the RADB server until about 2.5 hours after Tomoya posted
his email (the objects were picked up from the ARIN
mirror at 05:37:42 -0500 (EST) March 2).

--Larry

I'm sorry my RR update was ... too late? Did this cause a problem for someone?

  --N

(AS36561)