Sorry, but there are valid reasons for posting anonymously. As one person that almost got fired from a company for expressing what was clearly marked as his own opinion to this list, I can attest to this. Some employers are concerned that you post during working hours, some are concerned that you use a work address, some are concerned that anything you say, no matter what email you use, will be considered as representations of the company's direction, even if it is clearly marked as not.
I like helping and sharing my opinions, but I'm not willing to loose my job over it.
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here? I'd think
there would be more constructive things to do by management than read
nanog for questionable posts. If I were managing someone and they
posted their feeling on a subject and clearly said it was their own who
am I to have a problem with that. It might be in my best interest and
listen to them then silence them.
>I would like to take this opportunity to publicly shame eBay, who decided
>to fire one of their engineers for disclosing their "proprietary" methods
>for defending against DoS in the recent NANOG thread.
jc
> I'd think
>there would be more constructive things to do by management than read
>nanog for questionable posts. If I were managing someone and they
>posted their feeling on a subject and clearly said it was their own who
>am I to have a problem with that. It might be in my best interest and
>listen to them then silence them.
>
>>
>> Sorry, but there are valid reasons for posting anonymously. As one person
>> that almost got fired from a company for expressing what was clearly marked
>> as his own opinion to this list, I can attest to this. Some employers are
>> concerned that you post during working hours, some are concerned that you
>> use a work address, some are concerned that anything you say, no matter what
>> email you use, will be considered as representations of the company's
>> direction, even if it is clearly marked as not.
>>
>> I like helping and sharing my opinions, but I'm not willing to loose my job
and I don't see any further discussion on that particular topic (I'll
make the same disclaimer as the sender of the second message: I don't
know one way or the other what might have happened or not happened or
which sender is correct). Any other references to this kind of thing
happening?
As the sender of the second message - it was a caution that people
should investigate, not a statement that it didn't happen.
All of the evidence I could gather indicate that it did, in fact, happen
in at least some form. At the very least, other employees (whom I have
know for years) said that he was gone, as of the date in question. They
were not told the cause (as would be expected in most companies).
Granted, believeing this means you'd have to trust *my* legwork. Or do
your own. However, the 'almost' case certainly can't be argued. Just
check the archives for the number of folks who've posted at the end of
some thread about being 'asked to stop'.
Don't forget general kookery where you make a customer mad, a
usenet poster, or some other irrational personality and they
contact your employer to detail everything they know about
you like posting to rec.cannabis, soc.motss, etc. It's
interferring in a business relationship, but most of 'em
don't care.
All of the evidence I could gather indicate that it did, in fact, happen
>> in at least some form. At the very least, other employees (whom I have
>> know for years) said that he was gone, as of the date in question. They
>> were not told the cause (as would be expected in most companies).
When I did my own investigation into this, I was told the person in question:
>was not giving a warning, was not given a second chance,
>was not already on any kind of performance plan, had many strong
>ties in the organization since he had been here for over 3 1/2
>years, and is also currently unemployed with no hopes of getting
>any jobs at this point.
I learned this information (with varying levels of detail) from 2 different independent sources, once a while ago (when the incident first happened), once recently reconfirmed.
I really wish I was in a hiring position right now. There are an awful lot of GOOD people out there who need jobs and who can do awesome work. It's a wonderful time to startup a company, you can hire really good people for far less than it cost 2-4 years ago (because inflated salaries have come back down to realistic levels). If only you can shake the startup money loose from a VC, which is only possible if you have a *real* business plan.