Sorry, I missed the hands-down winner in my initial thinking,
since it's not in my arena [hardware]..
The envelope please..
Micro$loth Lookout....
{applause}
Starting with "Let's invent top-posting" and moving to its
virus-spreading abilities; Lookout has never met a standard, either
hard [written/RFC] or not [consensus] that it could not wound/kill.
Further, it damages the thinking of its users almost as well
as drug dealers wares -- be that crack or this week's over-hyped
anti-depress^H^H^H mood-fixer. It's the Newspeak of the current
era.
: Sorry, I missed the hands-down winner in my initial thinking,
: since it's not in my arena [hardware]..
Oh, the hardware one's easy, though. The modern PC, which does not by
default come with a remote management (typically RS-232) system-level
console. At least most if not all of the hardware discussed in this thread
has *that*. 
: The envelope please..
: Micro$loth Lookout....
<METOO/>
*glares*
Sometimes, especially on the Windows platform, its hard trying to find an
email program which does what you need it to. I've tried Eudora,
Netscape/Mozilla, and a few others I forget what they are named. All feel
clutsy and incomplete.
Outlook and its little friend Outlook Express at least work pretty
consistantly. I've not had serious problems using it full time.
Now, before everyone starts calling me a Microsoft supporter - I hate
microsoft just as much as any other sysadmin/netadmin. But sometimes (abeit
rarely), microsoft does something halfway decent.
Now, if I could get K-Mail forWindows, I'd be in good shape.
1. Any device whose physical characteristics make it a likely candidate
to be shelf-mounted, yet which has side ventilation ports which will be
blocked by the sides of a rack shelf.
2. The BAT csu/dsu, a cheap T1 csu/dsu which used red LED's to indicate
that all was well (or was it green to indicate an alarm?)
3. Routers that will accomodate high density of OCx ports but only have
the bus capacity to support a fraction of them.
4. The Cleveland airport.
RJ45 connectors: Nasty fiddly things that never seem to work the first
time you wire them up. (snip, curse, try again...)
Chris
2. The BAT csu/dsu, a cheap T1 csu/dsu which used red LED's to indicate
that all was well (or was it green to indicate an alarm?)
As admitted by them, whatever cheap LED's they could by at Fry's on deep
discount.
No, I am not kidding.
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