while i'm on the subject of filtering, here's today's list of spammers

if you're listed and think you shouldn't be, give me a call (you can't send
me mail). and yes, these same thieves are also prevented from reaching the
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET host, but lack of reachability to one NS doesn't break
their service.

why in the world are we discussing this on NANOG?

        # general spam
        204.141.123 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # Cybernex
        208.1.117 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # Intgrtd Med. Promtns
        208.8.32 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # Idea Concepts
        207.76.82 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # hardchannel
        206.222.107.192 masklen 29 interface lo0 reject; # telysis
        207.86.199 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # onlinebiz / covesoft
        207.217.56.116 masklen 32 interface lo0 reject; # mailloop.com
        38.220.191 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # quantumcom
        205.136.220.60 masklen 32 interface lo0 reject; # shadowgrp (IDCI)
        204.183.199.231 masklen 32 interface lo0 reject; # xshadowx (uServe?)
        # softcell spam
        199.250.187.72 masklen 32 interface lo0 reject; # www CNAME/A
        # cyberpromo spam
        207.120.161.73 masklen 32 interface lo0 reject; # www.cpmall.com
        207.124.161 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # NS8, NS9 (IDCI)
        205.199.212 masklen 24 interface lo0 reject; # NS5 (AGIS)
        208.5.0.0 masklen 20 interface lo0 reject; # NS10 (Crawford)
        206.27.86.210 masklen 32 interface lo0 reject; # NS7 (ACUN)

if you're listed and think you shouldn't be, give me a call (you can't send
me mail). and yes, these same thieves are also prevented from reaching the
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET host, but lack of reachability to one NS doesn't break
their service.

It's still childish and unfair. And if everyone does this, then sooner or
later someone's going to get blocked because they said something nasty
about the root server operator's mother or something equally trite. I
don't want to cry "free speech" but it will eventually become that kind of
issue.

I also fail to see how blocking them from one server restricts spammers in
any way. Explain that one to me.

why in the world are we discussing this on NANOG?

I've no idea. Perhaps you should have sent it to the individuals who are
blocked instead (esp. considering most of them probably don't subscribe),
or just not at all. I don't really care about spam domains, unless they
spam me - in which case I procmail them into oblivion and that's that.
This "fight spam" campaign is only serving to reinforce the belief that
mass marketing via the net is working. If everyone just ignored the mail,
the problem would go away.

shag

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