Where to get IPv4 block these day

hey everyone,

Been a while since I had to deal with NetOps stuff. Was wondering, where do you go these days to get IPv4 blocks? It seems like getting assignments is hard due to exhaustion. I have found some “Auction” sites but it all feels very scammy. Any info would be appreciated.

-James

It depends on the urgency and application of the block. You can get on
the ARIN waitlist for a /24 block - current wait time is around 2-3
months; we waited around 3 for ours to be fulfilled. They distribute
them in timed blocks from when old customers churn or get suspended.

Phin

Ipv4.global is very reliable. I’ve sold blocks there

If you are also using the v4 space to facilitate IPv6 you can get some space from ARIN via the
4.10 policy.

https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#4-10-dedicated-ipv4-block-to-facilitate-ipv6-deployment

        Been a while since I had to deal with NetOps stuff. Was
        wondering, where do you go these days to get IPv4 blocks? It
        seems like getting assignments is hard due to exhaustion. I have
        found some "Auction" sites but it all feels very scammy. Any
        info would be appreciated.

        -James

-Hank

Note, those lists of brokers are not vetted for quality. They filled out a form, agreed to certain terms, and paid a fee to be listed.

Do your research and ask for referrals.

Contact eddie at iptrading.com , I have used their services several times and never had any issues.

Contact eddie at iptrading.com , I have used their services several times and never had any issues.

Yep, this what it has come to.

“I got a guy”

Just keep buying addresses and slamming in NAT boxes folks …

Here is a meme

https://imgflip.com/i/5ipi7s

sigh you are assuming the end user is being somehow lazy and incompetent and NOT also deploying IPV6? Seriously, you still need parallel deployment of IPV4 in 99% of situations and its about time the attempted shaming of people for accepting the reality of the world stopped. I know we are in a post reality world now but at least on this list can we not descend into silly memes?

Yep, this what it has come to.

“I got a guy”

Just keep buying addresses and slamming in NAT boxes folks …

Here is a meme

https://imgflip.com/i/5ipi7s

*Sigh*

I hear you. Have IPv6 at home perfectly fine via Spectrum.

At work however, my provider (Allo Communications in Lincoln, Neb., FTTH for 100% of the city, completely brand new network in the last 5 years) is stuck on CGNAT and no IPv6 (unless you pay for IPv4 addresses which we of course do as we need them). I don’t get it. They claim to be waiting on their upstream providers last I heard. Which is, of all folks, Hurricane Electric, one of the early big adopters of IPv6.

Sigh

I hear you. Have IPv6 at home perfectly fine via Spectrum.

At work however, my provider (Allo Communications in Lincoln, Neb., FTTH for 100% of the city, completely brand new network in the last 5 years) is stuck on CGNAT and no IPv6 (unless you pay for IPv4 addresses which we of course do as we need them). I don’t get it. They claim to be waiting on their upstream providers last I heard. Which is, of all folks, Hurricane Electric, one of the early big adopters of IPv6.

sigh

I know you are lazy.

But my comment was focused on our industry’s collective negligence in acting together to deploy ipv6, failing embracing the bounty, and now collectively taking our punishment of being collectively captured by rent-seekers that have taken free community ipv4 resources and are now selling them back to us.

Sigh

I hear you. Have IPv6 at home perfectly fine via Spectrum.

At work however, my provider (Allo Communications in Lincoln, Neb., FTTH for 100% of the city, completely brand new network in the last 5 years) is stuck on CGNAT and no IPv6 (unless you pay for IPv4 addresses which we of course do as we need them). I don’t get it. They claim to be waiting on their upstream providers last I heard. Which is, of all folks, Hurricane Electric, one of the early big adopters of IPv6.

sigh

Sorry Andy, this sigh was headed to Tony

List admin, this is a direct and unwarranted personal attack that is clearly against the list rules. I recommend this person is barred or at least officially warned that this is unacceptable behaviour.

v6 isn’t a solution today for v4 problems.

Insults are not productive.

I don't know that IPv6 was ever intended to be a solution to IPv4 problems per se. It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity.

v6 isn’t a solution today for v4 problems.

I don’t know that IPv6 was ever intended to be a solution to IPv4 problems per se.

When a seed is planted in soil, a number of factors (moisture, condition of soil, water, enegy/light) contribute to its chances of germination.

Assuming all the factors remain constant, the growth of the germinated plant also depend on a wide range of factors.

A maize seed for instance take a spontaneous natural process of 3 to 6 months to become corn.

It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity.

Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6?

Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of eyeballs that contribute revenue to local Telecoms whose network is heavily CGNAT.

Noah

Handsets - Cameron would be in a better place than I to discuss this, but certainly anything used to connect to his network (T-Mobile) does, and enables access with IPv4 turned off. That includes at least iPhone (the handset I use to access his network), and Android. Captcha

As to other systems, Apple and Linux platforms, and more recently Windows, supports IPv6, and has for quite a while. Issues there tend to be in specific applications (due to the socket interface).

Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6?

Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of eyeballs that contribute revenue to local Telecoms whose network is heavily CGNAT.

Handsets - Cameron would be in a better place than I to discuss this, but certainly anything used to connect to his network (T-Mobile) does, and enables access with IPv4 turned off. That includes at least iPhone (the handset I use to access his network),

IPhones handsets this part of the world are not common handsets to majority of the end-users who are not middle class folk and even most middle class folk still settle for cost effective Android handsets.

and Android. https://thirdinternet.com/ipv6-on-mobile-devices/

For a tech savvy end-user the above tutorial is useful and only useful if the Teleco has made the effort to provide v6.

Most data bundles are auto configured with v4 and v6 disabled for the obvious reasons that is CGNAT still rocks.

As to other systems, Apple and Linux platforms, and more recently Windows, supports IPv6, and has for quite a while. Issues there tend to be in specific applications (due to the socket interface).

Ack but this is for only those tech savvy end-users with keep interest for v6.

NAT still works and misconceptions of NAT providing some level of unknown security are still widely common.

Noah

I thought I had heard that there were carriers out there that are mainly (always?) using v6 to the phones? i assume they just nat somewhere for v4 sites?

And wouldn't it take effort to *disable* v6 capability for iphones and android? with happy eyeballs it just sort of works.

Mike

It appears that Noah <noah@neo.co.tz> said:

It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity.

Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6?

Actually, yes. Many mobile networks are all v6 internally with NAT to external v4 sites.