what's going on with yahoo and gmail lately?

As mail.yahoo.com directs incoming login/mail_box_accessing request to some other host, the long latency of
DNS resolution time may derive to timeout of webpage access. I solve this problem by set those name-to-ip
record in /etc/hosts before ( a bad choice, :-()

A question out of focusing, who know when Google will open Gmail to public?

regards

joe

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:54 , Mike Sawicki fifi@HAX.ORG sent:

Joe Shen wrote:

A question out of focusing, who know when Google will open Gmail to public?

Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from rediff.com ?

Pete

A question out of focusing, who know when Google will open Gmail to
public?

Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G total from
rediff.com ?

how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in my
email for the last two decades.

randy

I'm trying to work out whether in the last two decades I've ever received
a non-local email smaller than 100 bytes. Even your gnomic insights
exceed this with headers.

Alex

How else can you build up the largest spam folder in the world,
harddisks are so extremely expensive today.

I really wonder what the use for these freemail things is actually.
Except for the 'I can be mostly anonymous' part. As one isn't paying,
when the service goes down or crashes or deletes your mail or whatever,
there is nothing to demand that you get your 1 Gigabyte of email back.
I rather pay for a service and know that my email is in good hands and
also is backupped correctly and works(tm).

The argument for 'I need more than one address' isn't doable either as
most ISP's will give one a zillion aliases if one requests them.
Then again those are usually with a ~20mb max and that is on the small
side.

Also on the '1G in 20 years' front, remember that many people think that
using images (BMP's :wink: and HTML and crap is 'email' while they are
actually sending websites over SMTP...

Greets,
Jeroen

[...]

how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content* in
my email for the last two decades.

I never delete "real" mail. Slightly over one decade is approaching
about 700MB of mail.

I'd have expected you to have a much larger mail volume than myself,
so 1GB in two decades should be easy.

Reminds me of that (apocryphal) Bill Gates quote about how 640K RAM ought to be
enough for anyone.

If people still only sent email with SNDMSG or even /bin/mail there wouldn't be
all this need for six MB mailboxes, let alone 1 GB.

Given increasing mailbox size, I'm sure it won't take a genius to find out how
to stretch MIME to its limits wrt just how much active and multimedia rich
content can be crammed into an email.

  srs

Why wait for Gmail when you can get max 10M messages and 1G
total from rediff.com ?

how american of us. i doubt there uas been 1G of *real content*
in my email for the last two decades.

Given increasing mailbox size, I'm sure it won't take a genius to
find out how to stretch MIME to its limits wrt just how much
active and multimedia rich content can be crammed into an email.

it is easy to generate a lot of bytes. it is hard to generate
content. this list is a rekknown example.

randy

In a message written on Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 11:33:59AM -0400, Randy Bush wrote:

it is easy to generate a lot of bytes. it is hard to generate
content. this list is a rekknown example.

Content is in the eye of the viewer.

While you may have no use for a spiffy new camera phone, and e-mailing
video clips to each other a teenager might value having an e-mail
account not provided by their parents where friends can send all
the video clips they want without running out of disk space.

Just because you use a text e-mail client and don't like your e-mail
HTML formatted with 250kb JPEG's as signatures doesn't make you
part of the majority (at least, of e-mail users). Sadly, far too
many people want to send an HTML formatted message, with embedded
company logos and graphical signatures attaching videos, or various
Microsoft Office formatted documents (if you want to give it a
business spin). To the users, that is all content. To you it is
likely bloat.

I know many corporate e-mail users (eg, account execs, sending
flashy proposals) who would blow through a gigabyte of e-mail in
under a month. While I never want such trash to appear in my e-mail
box, as a provider of network services I take great pleasure that
people want to do that to their e-mail, because in the end it is
more bits moving across my network. If google helps people send
bigger e-mails, with more attachments and more graphics and so on
good for them! More bits for all of us to bill.