What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network Incompetence Consortium"

Now come on, give these guys a break. You have to understand that they run
one of the largest services on the internet, and arguably the most
important. Yes, their billing procedures have been bad, registration is
slow, its often difficult to get someone on the phone to solve a problem,
etc. etc..

But they have to run a service that services everyone on the internet,
quite literally. Lycos is one of the largest companies on the web right now
and our service is extremely large. Let me tell you, its not like we don't
have disks fill, machines blow, modules in routers die, and on and on. In
comparison, I know what I have to go though to make Lycos work, plus the
efforts of hundreds of other employees. Combine that and you can't even
compare it to what InterNIC handles. Every single domain lookup goes though
root servers that they keep master ns records for. EVERY ONE!

Its easy for us to sit around and say that they suck, they stink, and they
are incompetent. Its because they are so important that their mistakes are
so noticeable. Think about running your service, you know that stuff
happens regardless of how redundant you attempt to make it. As a whole, I
think their service runs pretty damn well for the most part. Their
accounting and billing departments I can't say the same for, but that's not
the issue.

And lets not forget that they had to pioneer the whole thing. Its not like
they had a business model of another company to compare to when they
started up.

So have a little respect for them and don't whine about how much they suck
in the list unless its going to be productive, please.


Devin Anderson
Network Engineer
Lycos, Inc.

John Fraizer <John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net> on 01/16/99 08:15:59 AM

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I would like to thank the anonymous party who sent the email below. It
confirms the rumors I had heard related to the cause of the latest InterNIC

Subject: What does the NIC in InterNIC mean? "Network Incompetence

Consortium" (fwd)

To: John.Fraizer@EnterZone.Net

The service from InterNIC has been really poor for the last couple of
weeks, and they finally admitted what the problem is, but only to their
Premier Partners, and only after making up lots of other stories to cover
it up first.

Please keep me anonymous, don't use my name.

InterNIC admitted that they are being massively flooded by domain
speculators trying to register domains that are On Hold. It's happened
before, but this time it's far and away worse than ever before. They said
they expect to have it resolved in a few days, which I believe means that
they're seeking legal injunctions against one or more offenders. From


I've heard, these speculators are sending registration templates for
hundreds of domains every second, going far beyond their capacity.

It seems that the Network Solutions/The InterNIC is following the lead of
the politicians. Lie about it until you're caught and then refuse to talk
about it.

<VOICE="ANNOUNCER">This message has been brought to you by Network
Solutions - The Dot Com People! </VOICE>

Oh, I'm certainly willing to cut them some slack, as I know they're busy.
And the service is vastly improved since they first started maintaining it.

But things break way too often.

When things do break, Network Solutions' SOP seems to be to blame everyone
but themselves. (remember the fight between NetSol and Paul Vixie over the
lame delegations a couple months ago?)

So while they might be telling the truth, I am a little suspicious. They
may be telling the truth, or they may just be attempting to CYA.

It is very easy to use this list for competitive reasons, as I have noticed
as of late.

I strongly believe that many of these issues can be resolved with some
common sense solutions.

There is enough technical talent here to voluntarily go there and help
them fix the problem to everyone's satisfaction, well almost :slight_smile:

Pages of bitching don't resolve the issue and the replacement
value for InterNic is just not there. Without that A larger
mess of proportion will soon follow.

All these politically appointed supposed to know something about
nothing people will only add to the mess with the scale of network
growth. This group can and should solve the problem and make
this work for everyone.

That is what I am asking for, to make these on going attacks stop,
and it would satisfy the Government that we took care of our
own problem.

Henry R. Linneweh

danderson@lycos.com wrote:

To err is human. To constantly ignore common sense, and screw up a
highly mission-critical service, is not.

Common sense tells us not to pfutz with experimental load-balancing
technology in a mission-critical environment. Also, common sense tells us
to monitor disk usage carefully, and always have extra storage space on

I wish the InterNIC would spend my $35/year buying storage space, rather
than reminding me that they're the "dot-com people"...


Hey yo-yo - ever hear of Bcc... or are you just trying to impress us all
with the number of lists and *imp-O-tant* addresses you know for the loose
ends of the media market?

Sorry for replying to myself - was blinking too often when I read this
thread - - redirect that yo-yo comment to John Frasier who set the
reply-to - sorry Adam...