uDNS Root Name Servers Taking Shape

As promised, it looks like the uDNS[1] Root Name Server
Confederation is taking shape. The founders appear to
be taking a careful approach and are adding more servers.

The eDNS Root Name Server Confederation will remain
stable to continue to serve ISPs. There are 5 servers in
the eDNS Root Name Server Confederation.

The major Root Name Server Confederations are now:

  AlterNIC
  InterNIC
  eDNS
  name.space
  NSI/ISI
  uDNS

When the uDNS Root Name Server Confederation reaches
4 servers, it will be added to the automated reportin system
that helps to keep all of the Root Name Server Confederations
in "synch".

[1] =========================================
; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> @208.195.108.8 . any
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 4, Auth: 3, Addit: 3
;; QUESTIONS:
;; ., type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
. 172800 SOA root.starfire.douglas.ma.us. hostmaster.starfire.douglas.ma.us. (
      1997052900 ; serial
      43200 ; refresh (12 hours)
      900 ; retry (15 mins)
      604800 ; expire (7 days)
      172800 ) ; minimum (2 days)
. 518400 NS root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
. 518400 NS hp.manhattan.com.
. 518400 NS DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
. 518400 NS root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
. 518400 NS hp.manhattan.com.
. 518400 NS DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
root.starfire.douglas.ma.us. 86400 A 208.195.108.8
hp.manhattan.com. 172800 A 199.103.194.137
DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET. 172800 A 204.94.43.1

;; Total query time: 5393 msec
;; FROM: doormat.unety.net to SERVER: 208.195.108.8
;; WHEN: Fri May 30 01:31:17 1997
;; MSG SIZE sent: 17 rcvd: 254

[1] =========================================
; <<>> DiG 2.1 <<>> @208.195.108.8 . any
; (1 server found)
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 4, Auth: 3, Addit: 3
;; QUESTIONS:
;; ., type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWERS:
. 172800 SOA root.starfire.douglas.ma.us. hostmaster.starfire.douglas.ma.us. (
      1997052900 ; serial
      43200 ; refresh (12 hours)
      900 ; retry (15 mins)
      604800 ; expire (7 days)
      172800 ) ; minimum (2 days)
. 518400 NS root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
. 518400 NS hp.manhattan.com.
. 518400 NS DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.

;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
. 518400 NS root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.
. 518400 NS hp.manhattan.com.
. 518400 NS DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
root.starfire.douglas.ma.us. 86400 A 208.195.108.8

Multi-homed condition unknown and suspect due to truncated BGP path.
Approximate bandwidth from the core to this point on the network
from us at this point in time: 34.56kbps, or a good modem line :slight_smile:

hop packets min rtt BW
(ttl) in out (mS) k bps Address
MTU=8166 MTU=4352 MTU=2002 MTU=1492 TT
= 10 9 13 53.55 = 34.56 208.195.108.8 root.starfire.douglas.ma.us

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

hp.manhattan.com. 172800 A 199.103.194.137

Aggregated by (and complete path from) Open Advisors. Appears to be
multi-homed.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network: 65.28kbps, or a
          single-channel ISDN equivalent.
hop packets min rtt BW
(ttl) in out (mS) k bps Address
= 15 17 18 318.58 = 65.28 199.103.194.137

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET. 172800 A 204.94.43.1

Alternic under a different name, operated by Diane Boling, and running
with both nameservers on the same subnet. Linked to Seanet, which appears
to be multihomed.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network: 629kbps (my god, they
have one root with a fractional T1 worth of bandwidth available!)

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS ALSO RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

I rest my case. Only one of these has anything approaching reasonable
connectivity, all appear to be off single-point failure circuits (except
possibly manhattan.com), and all are running in non-RFC2010 mode.

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
root.starfire.douglas.ma.us. 86400 A 208.195.108.8

Multi-homed condition unknown and suspect due to truncated BGP path.

Yup, not multihomed until the new router comes in. :frowning:

Approximate bandwidth from the core to this point on the network
from us at this point in time: 34.56kbps, or a good modem line :slight_smile:

Gee, it's a T1 from here, must be a problem on your end. <grin>

THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED

Yup, until next week when we get the new box up.

AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

Says you, the grand high holy keeper of the ONE TRUE ROOTS. Ha!

hp.manhattan.com. 172800 A 199.103.194.137

Aggregated by (and complete path from) Open Advisors. Appears to be
multi-homed.

Yup.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network: 65.28kbps, or a
        single-channel ISDN equivalent.

You really should check your lines Karl, a multihomed server on a
single channel ISDN, I don't think so...

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION

Hmm... the name.boot file has it set off. I'll check it out.

AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

<yawn>

DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET. 172800 A 204.94.43.1

Alternic under a different name, operated by Diane Boling, and running
with both nameservers on the same subnet. Linked to Seanet, which appears
to be multihomed.

Yup.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network: 629kbps (my god, they
have one root with a fractional T1 worth of bandwidth available!)

Well, I guess your lines came back up! <grin>

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS ALSO RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED

could be.

AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

<yawn>

I rest my case. Only one of these has anything approaching reasonable
connectivity, all appear to be off single-point failure circuits (except
possibly manhattan.com), and all are running in non-RFC2010 mode.

Yah, we really need RFC2010 servers to run 1/2% of the internet - NOT!

Seriously, our schedule calls for 5 dedicated, non-recursive servers
up by next week this time, with T1 of better connectivity. We plan
full RFC2010 by the time we reach 5% visibility. Feel free to market
your system's RFC2010 compliance as an absolute must for servers that
handle a fraction of a percent of the internet's DNS requests, I'd be
surprised if any of the "internet aware" people on these lists you are
posting to care...

Take care,
Ron Kimball for the uDNS council

kook fight in the parking lot at 3 o'clock after school!

Why, who are you fighting? <grin>

Take care,
Ron

Will the Newdom, Edns, Udns, Ufp, Confederations, Federations,
and morons alike please take it to your respective lists.

NANOG, as has been stated so often even you guys can get it,
is for operations issues. DNS "as is" is an operations issue.
DNS "as you wish it were" is something for you to discuss till
you're blue in the face.

I'm tired of this drivel, and you keep adding lists and idiots
I can't killfile it fast enough.

Ehud

I have already been labelled a kook.

C'mon DNS people. Please move your discussions elsewhere.....