----- Forwarded message from Asad Haider <asad@asadhaider.co.uk> -----
WAIT A SECOND HERE!?!?
I just read below that this guy runs a large ISP in Austria. I thought
his Tor node was hosted with an external provider. If he runs the ISP,
why would he not host his own server in house? I suppose there are
reasons but I can't think of one, especially if you feel so strongly
about this being your right.
He talks about moving it to another ISP in the article interviewing him.
How about moving it to the large ISP you run?
If he runs a large ISP he must not be very good at it if he needs our
donations to help him defend himself from a crime he has not been
charged with yet. Most of the guys I know that run large ISPs have
legal guys available to them. They could also come up with 10000EUR if
necessary.
What is he going to do with this money if no charges are filed and they
give his gear back? If he believes that he is innocent of any crime
then he should be confident they won't find anything to charge him with,
right?
> If convicted i could face up to 6 years in jail, of course i do not
> want that and i also want to try to set a legal base for running Tor
> exit nodes in Austria or even the EU.
>
Six years in jail for what? They didn't arrest you yet. How do you
know what the charges are? The cops must not be too worried about the
Tor node if they did not seize it. They seem a lot more interested in
his personal storage devices. He seems to have a lot of data at home,
not illegal (possibly) but I am wondering what it all might be. The
cops have a lot of looking around ahead of them. Seems awful worried
for a guy who claims to be innocent. I am wondering why he seems so
sure he will be charged that he is building a legal defense fund before
being arrested.
> Sadly we have nothing like the EFF here that could help me in this
> case by legal assistance, so i'm on my own and require a good
lawyer.
> Thus i'm accepting donations for my legal expenses which i expect to
> be around 5000-10000 EUR.
So you know how much it costs to defend a case with unknown charges and
without knowing if you will be arrested yet?!?!?!
This whole thing sounds flakier with every new detail.
Steven Naslund
When is the last time you were arrested, or even in a legal situation
which required your attention as a defendant? It seems pretty straight
forward, but I can assure you this guy is getting very little sleep and
his heart is beating out of his chest. Granted this entire situation is
taking place in a legal venue which I have no understanding of (The EU
obviously does things differently). I think it was pretty risky to
consider running a Tor node, much less being involved in running multiple
nodes. This entire situation is beginning to read like a Kim DotCom (or
Schmitz for those of us who worked for him at some point) novel, where an
outside force directed a local LEA to perform some kind of raid to get
someone's attention. This was obviously not a helicopter raid with SWAT,
ala RapidShare, but I hope you get the point. This guy is sweating bullets
because he has no idea what is going to happen next (in my humble
opinion), so his rational thought process and/or even discussing when he
will return the funds donated is a pre-mature at best.
Just my .02.
Well, in that case.... I am really worried that the cops might charge
me with a crime. They took my computers and are looking at them. I did
not do anything wrong but just in case they decide to charge me with a
crime, please send me some money.
Thanks,
Steven Naslund
Well, in that case.... I am really worried that the cops might charge
me with a crime. They took my computers and are looking at them. I did
not do anything wrong but just in case they decide to charge me with a
crime, please send me some money.
As well you could be, because you appear to have the same name as a
registered sex offender:
http://www.sexoffenderin.com/reg110698/steven_w_naslundmugshot.htm
As well you could be, because you appear to have the same name as a
registered sex offender:
ok children. can we pull ourselves up out of the mud, please?
randy
The info from tor-talk was somewhat misleading. William Weber is not
the owner of the ISP. He works there as an administrator. So he runs
it (maybe) technically, not economically.
See eg:
http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/2641/we-colo-your-rpi-for-free
where his boss "ExPl0ReR" weighs in.
And "large" is quite relative. This info http://edis.businesscard.at/
says they have 13 employees. It may be outdated though.
Regards,
Jutta
Already dealt with that at an airport once. One look at my picture and
his cleared that right up and they put a note in the entry system that
says I am not this guy. High tech huh. Sometimes the system works. By
the way we have different middle initials and different SSNs.
I have an original DDN TAC Access card, installed BBN nodes for the US
Air Force, and worked for quite a few ISPs, and now work for large
global corporation. Sorry I did not meet you at NSF net, I worked more
on the DoD side of things.
Steven Naslund
A lot of guys have the same names, I did not assume that you are related
to Jessica Simpson or Bart Simpson for that matter.
Maybe I did not see you at NSFnet because I was working with DDN which
was established a full two years before NSFnet. So what? Does the
fact that I worked on the precursor to the Internet and NSFnet make me
more credible than you? I was not aware that in order to be credible on
NANOG, we had to meet you at some point. They did not tell me that at
the Pentagon or when I got my engineering degrees.
I also have great respect for the Tor engineers, it was great work. I
just don't have respect for the idiots that sometimes use Tor. I also
have great respect for the guys who wrote sendmail and don't blame them
every time I get spam. What I don't have any respect for is the "I was
here first (you weren't)", name dropping (I know the Tor guys), know it
all (that does not know that a lot of what people do does not show up in
google).
For those of you who care about credentials. I have been working on the
Internet and its predecessors since 1985. Of course that has absolutely
nothing to do with the credibility of what I say because time does not
always equal knowledge. As soon as you assume you are smarter than
everyone else in the room you can be assured that you are not.
Steven Naslund