* Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@mhsc.com> [20010513 13:45]:
None of the DSL ISPs can do larger than /27 anymore, even when they're
ILECs.
What does being an ILEC have to do with layer 3 routing?
'sides there are plenty of DSL ISPs that offer larger than a /27. Heck, I
count some of them among my clients who consist primarily of smaller
regional players. If you are looking for more major player examples that
offer larger IP blocks:
Actually we have a /23 block that PSINet was routing just fine. A lot of
people complain about the DSL technology
itself, but I don't think the technology is the problem, but the competence
(or lack of it) amongst the major players.
All of our problems have not been related to the DSL technology itself, but
rather the screwups of the providers.
John
John Palmer wrote:
> I don't think the technology is the problem, but the competence
> (or lack of it) amongst the major players.
> All of our problems have not been related to the DSL technology itself, but
> rather the screwups of the providers.
Have you considered the possibility that you weren't paying for
competence? If you chose to call the _business_ services group of any of
the involved providers, and order a T1 at normal price, you might
discover whether they're competent or not.
-Bill
Bill Woodcock wrote:
> I don't think the technology is the problem, but the competence
> (or lack of it) amongst the major players.
> All of our problems have not been related to the DSL technology itself, but
> rather the screwups of the providers.
Have you considered the possibility that you weren't paying for
competence? If you chose to call the _business_ services group of any of
the involved providers, and order a T1 at normal price, you might
discover whether they're competent or not.
CAIS apparently just sucks. I couldn't even get the idiots there to return
my phone calls saying "I WANT TO PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS"
(as a DSL reseller), after several calls to their salesdroids from both myself
and one of the senior Business Development executives at Covad.
I was then informed by someone who had used them that their support
was nonexistent - and I believe it. If they won't return calls that generate
direct revenue, why should we expect them to return calls that don't?
Other situations may be different, but I concur with Mr. Palmer's
assessment of CAIS as incompetent.
"I WANT TO PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS" (as a DSL reseller)
That's a contradiction. The more of their DSL you sell, the quicker they
go out of business. Blah, blah, blah, make it up on volume. No wonder
they're not returning your calls.
-Bill
Bill Woodcock wrote:
> "I WANT TO PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS" (as a DSL reseller)
That's a contradiction. The more of their DSL you sell, the quicker they
go out of business.
There is, at least, some profit margin in SDSL. Not in ADSL unless
you're Ameritech and charging almost $200/mo retail for a service you charge
your resellers $35/mo for.