The root nameservers will be replaced August 1st

Michael, et. al.

] If the information in the following message means what I think it means in
] then somebody is colocating an entire new set of root nameservers at
] exchange points within the USA if not internationally.
]
] Can they do this? Or are they bluffing?

  Of course they can do that. And I can start queuing data at my
  router to send all tcp packets w/ 1000 bytes, and set the priority
  bit. I can also send a constant 1M ping stream to every ISP's web
  server, and I can finger every machine every 5 minutes to see if
  Sean is on to ask him a question. I can draw OC3 PVCs between
  the NAPs and sell web content more cheaply than any other ISP can
  draw a nationwide network. I can send appletalk packets across my
  WAN and attempt to send them to my peers, I can build my own IXP
  and sponser, in addition to IP: IPX; and Appletalk traffic! In
  fact, I can claim 10/8, and if I have enough interests in the
  world, and enough people can be bullied into it, I can route that
  to you, and it can appear in the global tables!

  The larger issue, is who cares? Who will give a whoot about what
  I do? And what are the ramifications of them doing it?
  Concisely, how will people deal with it?

  Perhaps I missed the intent of your letter. Are you implying
  that an official body is making a change in policy such that a new
  hw/sw system is used and their geographic points change from
  pseudo random placement, to NAP/IXP placement?

  Or perhaps you were a bit dismayed that some entrepeneurs are
  trying to make things better outside the antiquated^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H 'system'?

  -alan
   Chief Promulgator, Second Class, Anarchic Intelligentsia

  ps -> this system wanted NAP/IXPs to be a free socialist meeting
        point for providers (beyond hw/colo costs), as well, but
  capitalist forces changed the economics when people stopped
  peering freely.....

  Michael, et. al.

] If the information in the following message means what I think it means in
] then somebody is colocating an entire new set of root nameservers at
] exchange points within the USA if not internationally.
]
] Can they do this? Or are they bluffing?

  Of course they can do that. And I can start queuing data at my
  router to send all tcp packets w/ 1000 bytes, and set the priority
  bit. I can also send a constant 1M ping stream to every ISP's web
  server, and I can finger every machine every 5 minutes to see if

If you did that they would boot you and your equipment out of the XP's
co-lo site so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. That's before the
lawyers go to work on you.

  Perhaps I missed the intent of your letter. Are you implying
  that an official body is making a change in policy such that a new
  hw/sw system is used and their geographic points change from
  pseudo random placement, to NAP/IXP placement?

I'm saying that an unofficial body appears to be implementing a system of
alternative root nameservers at exchange points. This is what they claim.
I want to know if this could be true, i.e. would an XP allow that sort of
colo server for starters. This has nothing to do with the official root
nameservers whatsoever except that this group wants people to use their
root servers rather than the official ones.

I also want to know if this placement of servers would have any impact on
network operations. Since this list is filled with the people who run
XP's and who colocate at XP's and who understand what's going on, I asked
this question here.

Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting
Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049
http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com