The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question

Sean Donelan writes:

Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner. We didn't need the filters, but
it got more money by filtering routes, so it kept them.

Although many people suspected that was the reason, Sprint's sales
and marketing people denied it for years.

Because some of them, unlike you, understood (or at least were told)
that we DID need the filter, otherwise the Internet would start
becoming too expensive to continue growing.

The entire Internet, not just Sprintlink.

I realize that this is hard for you to wrap your brain around
when you're in a rant against an evil corporate behemoth, but
try just for a second to believe that people can act altruistically
and in self-interest SIMULTANEOUSLY.

They said buy your circuit from Sprint and you can bypass Sprint's "save
the Internet" filters.

That was true. However, if they said it would bypass anyone else's
filter, or that there was zero chance of anyone else installing a
similar filter, that would be a lie. Well, almost -- not many
similar filters got installed. Blame Sprint's then-competition
for being too stupid to protect their market share (and incidentally
simultaneously act altruistically!).

If you asked a Sprint sales guy why Sprint had
the filters, the answer was generally along the lines "if Sprint didn't
have the filter, the Internet would collapse."

That was true.

  Sean.

The altruistic behaviour is shown to arise from self-interest: "The
Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins ponders that point to death.

--vadim

Because some of them, unlike you, understood (or at least were told)
that we DID need the filter, otherwise the Internet would start
becoming too expensive to continue growing.

The entire Internet, not just Sprintlink.

Other providers never adopted filters, Sprint has since dropped its
filters. The Internet is still growing.

It even continued to grow faster because Sprint couldn't control its
own route announcements.

similar filters got installed. Blame Sprint's then-competition
for being too stupid to protect their market share (and incidentally
simultaneously act altruistically!).

Its difficult to view the act as altruistic, when in the face of
impending doom, it continued to spew forth as many different routes
as it did. But perhaps we didn't recognize the behavior as a cry
for help. Much like and addict, it couldn't stop itself from prostituting
itself while at the same time criticizing other providers for the same
behaivor. Many a politician and religious leader has condemned the
sinner, only to be found in bed with the sinner themselves.

A hypocritic condemns others for what he does himself.

If you really believed the Internet was facing immenient doom, why
not also save it by also filtering the outbound announcements. Why
engage in the very behaivor your condemnded?

Its not that difficult to apply the same filter on both the inbound
and outbound route announcements. I'm sure someone on this list
can post the appropriate Cisco and Juniper configs if you don't
have them.