> Most mailing lists I am on seem to get by fine without overt
> moderation - including this one.
you have your facts wrong. the operators of this mailing list are
capable of sending private mail to people like me who keep posting
drivel like the message i am now typing.
yup - I have had one or two of those (admittedly justified too but
there is a difference between a handslap by private email and censorship
by selectively rejecting posts; there is also a much bigger difference
between a handslap over something already posted (even in public) and
precensorship by making sure the rest of the list never see the posts in
question in the first place.
> Most moderated lists I am on seem to get by with thread killing - an
> argument is allowed to run for a few posts, then the moderator posts
> he is officially killing the thread, and further posts on that will
> rejected (and should be taken to email).
sure. firstname.lastname@example.org works that way, as an example of one
I am not in a position to argue this one either way - I don't sub to
that list, having little to contribute.
If you say that namedroppers is not in the class of lists I am
attacking, then I am happy to take your word for it
> Prefiltering to suit *any* one individuals opinion of what is or
> topic seems highly suspect for any list, and unacceptable on a list
> supposedly to define policy.
so in order for a policy-defining forum to be considered
must be open to all posts on all topics from all parties at all times?
no, but it must be open to anything even *remotely* on topic, or how can
you make a balanced judgement? If individual people are offensive to
individual readers, they have killfilters...
Meta-discussion (to a certain extent) must also be on topic -
particularly discussion of the list charter.
> Note I have never read the list in question, so am arguing on
> principles here, not this specific instance..... perhaps a parallel
> setup (with $listname and $listname-filtered) could be set up with
> making it to the second list only with moderator approval?
i'm sure that if one were set up it would be used by many people.
I don't see why not - if it were reversed (and $listname and
$listname-unfiltered) would that be more acceptable to you? it would
even be transparent (you need change nothing, and everything will look
just as it was)