Spam?

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New location means we now get spam on Nanog? Could we go back to the old place?

2

New location means we now get spam on Nanog?

no extra charge :slight_smile:

i have lived through maintaing decades of mailing lists and do not envy
the nanog mailing list crew and glen over at amsl.

thanks for the hard work, folk.

randy

3

Let's work harder -- seriously, MailMan seemed to be working fine. ~:-/

- ferg

4

thanks for the hard work, folk.

Let's work harder

thanks for volunteering. when will you be flying out to the bay?

randy

5

I already live in The Bay Area. Is there an 'revert' button?

- ferg

6

I received no spam, and had I received 2 pieces, it may have been slightly irritating.

What is irritating is the sheer number of people complaining about it. Can we stop please? I think they get it.

-=Tom

7

I'm with you Randy, I'm disappointed with the complaints I see here. People don't seem to show much appreciation.

Jason

8

Tom, you are one of the lucky ones -- I have received over two dozen SPAM via NANOG in the last 24 hours.

And, yes, it would be gratifying to know why the change - is the new configuration less expensive? (to the list manager, not us, obviously)

Also, where is the reply to header?

James R. Cutler
james.cutler@consultant.com

9

Also, where is the reply to header?

still in the garbage, where it belongs

10

I suspect, Randy, that Ferg *knows* how to use ssh.

Cheers,
-- jra

11

NANOG, being a traditional, (semi-)public, technical mailing list, has never
had a Reply-to header, and never should. I concur with the people who assert
that adding the Reply-to header formally violates the relevant RFCs, quite
aside from the Real World problems it can (and *has*) caused.

  http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html

Cheers,
-- jra

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From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi.com@nanog.org Tue Jul 12 11:29:29 2011
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:22:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Spam?

> From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>

> > Also, where is the reply to header?
>
> still in the garbage, where it belongs

NANOG, being a traditional, (semi-)public, technical mailing list, has
never had a Reply-to header, and never should. I concur with the people
who assert that adding the Reply-to header formally violates the relevant
RFCs, quite aside from the Real World problems it can (and *has*) caused.

*SIGH*

One more "problem" with the 'new system', Messages through it _have_
a Reply-to: header. Set to the putative email of the sender, no less.

13

Given what you know now, if you were 21 and just starting into networking /
communications industry which areas of study or specialty would you
prioritize?

Thanks

Larry Stites
NCNetworks, Inc.
Nevada City, CA 95959

14

Google.

Greets,
Jeroen

15

Again? Buy AAPL, INTC and MSFT with loan money and study *cough*, finer things
in life.

But in all seriousness, networking like I suppose most professions are not
about knowing one thing and stopping. It's evolving rather rapidly so most
thing you know now are irrelevant in decade or two. What you should learn is
how to learn, how to attack problems and learn to love doing both.

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</lurk>

Learn how to delegate -everything-, and actually do -nothing-...
.. how to blame someone else when something goes wrong, even if it's -your- fault,
and take full credit whenever anything goes well, even if it -isn't- yours..

Then, and only then, Grasshopper,
      you will be ready for */management/* in -/*any*/- of the Fortune 500 corporations.

:stuck_out_tongue:

-- Who is John Galt ?

<lurk>

17

Women

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

18

+30.

Cheers,
-- jra

19

Saku nailed it. Learn the networking basics and underlying concepts
(OSI!), everything else is an "application" that runs on that, and can
be picked up pretty easily if you understand what it depends on.
Wireshark (or your favorite capture tool) is your friend.

That said, I feel knowing some of the parallels like *nix and vendor
specifics (ie if you know Cisco IOS, many others follow this interface
like a standard) really comes in useful over time.

  -Scott

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Get an executive MBA then you can dictate to us lowly techs what technology we will use without ever having to know why. Plus you will earn 10x the $$$ by the time you are 30 without having to recertify every couple years.