spam relaying by the big boys

Just yesterday, UUNet released a statement on it's anti-spam policy, which
included:

UUNET's anti-spamming policy includes:
- limiting the length of email recipient lists;
- blacklisting mail sent from known spamming locations or organizations;
- maintaining a mailbox (abuse@uu.net) which allows victims to report spam
incidents;

Imagine my surprise when I bounced some newly received spam to
abuse@uu.net and received the following response:

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<abuse@uu.net>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mail.uu.net.:

RCPT To:<abuse@uu.net>

<<< 550 <abuse@uu.net>... User unknown
550 <abuse@uu.net>... User unknown

Oh joy!

... while talking to mail.uu.net.:
>>> RCPT To:<abuse@uu.net>
<<< 550 <abuse@uu.net>... User unknown
550 <abuse@uu.net>... User unknown

Oh joy!

How 'bout this?

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<abuse@aol.com>
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mrin80.mail.aol.com.:

RCPT To:<abuse@aol.com>

<<< 552 abuse mailbox full
554 <abuse@aol.com>... Service unavailable

Operational issue: how to not look so foolish.. :slight_smile:

[ On Fri, August 8, 1997 at 02:25:55 (-0400), Christopher Masto wrote: ]

Subject: Re: spam relaying by the big boys

... while talking to mrin80.mail.aol.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<abuse@aol.com>
<<< 552 abuse mailbox full
554 <abuse@aol.com>... Service unavailable

Operational issue: how to not look so foolish.. :slight_smile:

Yeah. I think I've got copies of bounces from postmaster and abuse
mailboxes at all the big players who run systems that offer that
"mailbox full" feature.... I find it hard to believe that a 24x7 NOC
could ever get into this situation unless they've got a mail bomber
right on their backbone and they can't cut him off any other way.

These big guys do all have 24x7 staffed NOCs and their staff do
constantly monitor ops-related mailboxes such as 'postmaster', don't
they? If not, why not?