Reasons why BIND isn't being upgraded

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Just about every very large company that I've ever worked with. Also,
having spent numerous years working the NAVSEA and other Pentagon systems,
you are explicitly not permitted to install anything other than a
vendor-provided patch.
My god, are there really this many idiots out there that don't grasp how
the world works?

See, i'm sitting here thinking the same thing.

Have you ever maintained a (bind|sendmail|etc) machine in a production,
internet connected environment? I'm not talking about a corporate LAN,
beind PIX's, etc.

Jeez. If I waited for Sun to issue patches and upgrades, I would have
been hacked a long time ago....And, I feel sorry for anyone that does wait
for them.

I cannot believe that there are people that are really using (and not to
pick on Sun at all) Sun's bind and sendmail (and now apache). Apparently
you live in a very straightforward world, and have no need for
customization. Must have a real easy job.

(Sorry for the negativity).

I'm done with this thread.

Paul, Keep up the good work. Whatever you people decide to do, the masses
will apparently have no choice but to follow :slight_smile:

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>My god, are there really this many idiots out there that don't grasp how
>the world works?

See, i'm sitting here thinking the same thing.

Have you ever maintained a (bind|sendmail|etc) machine in a production,
internet connected environment? I'm not talking about a corporate LAN,
beind PIX's, etc.

Yes, all the time. In fact, we have local patches to all of the above that
we have to integrate into each new release, so I fully understand the
problem, HOWEVER ...

Jeez. If I waited for Sun to issue patches and upgrades, I would have
been hacked a long time ago....And, I feel sorry for anyone that does wait
for them.

I do too. But I spent 3 years working in NAVSEA where we couldn't implement
the most basic security patch until it arrived through the S&R, was checked
in through the right channels, was signed into my hands, etc.

Whether you feel it is stupid or not, these people exist and these people
have needs. There's no reason not to support both sets of environments.

I cannot believe that there are people that are really using (and not to
pick on Sun at all) Sun's bind and sendmail (and now apache). Apparently
you live in a very straightforward world, and have no need for
customization. Must have a real easy job.
(Sorry for the negativity).

Yes, and I'm sure that everyone sitting on their heels dealing with those
environments thanks you as well. Let's be rude to anyone that doesn't meet
our personal design philosophy, why don't we?

Hang out with Greg Woods much?