RE: Site elimination service -:) - I received offer by 's'p'a'm'

Alexei Roudnev wrote:
I received adv., in russian, saying:
Dear sirs.
We are glad to you to give qualitative service, on
elimination of sites. We can kill any site by our
attack, which have name 'DDos attack'.
The prices at us low, 60 dollars for 6 hours.

This could be useful to evaluate mitigation gear: setup your own target
server on a fat pipe, get the vendor to loan you the mitigation gear
then pay 60 bucks to see if it really does mitigate something... You'll
only see one set of zombies, but 60 bucks is pretty darn cheap.

Michel.

Ooo, a great idea. As a result - $60 for QA, plus a chance to catch a
criminal -:). Just as _want to test network IDS - set up IRC, join it into
EFNet, and here you are_.

Generally speaking, I think it deserves attention (this adv.).

You're assuming that this is something very new, but it has been going on
for long time on irc. If you knew right channel you can find people quite
willing to DoS somebody else for $$. That it moved to spam is unusual for
their types, but if you remember how many DoS attacks had been happening
to anti-spam sites and services, it is clear that spammers did pay some of
these criminals to do it. Probably the person responsible for this spam is
kind of middle-person who had been arranging things like this.

One note is it could be interesting to know how many emails like that had
been sent and how targeted the audience may have been.

Of course, this is not new on IRC, but it is new in SPAM.

Well, somehow I don't think this would be the kind of spam product/service
they can sell well to make it worth sending typical 100 million emails.
The kind of people who want this are already spammers and similar criminal
cround, and while offering of DoS service would probably continue, it'd
likely be done on the specialized forums. That is why I asked how targeted
do you think that email was...

Well, somehow I don't think this would be the kind of spam product/service
they can sell well to make it worth sending typical 100 million emails.
The kind of people who want this are already spammers and similar criminal
cround, and while offering of DoS service would probably continue, it'd
likely be done on the specialized forums. That is why I asked how targeted
do you think that email was...

It is difficult to answer... at least, it come to e-mail used in nanog and
other _network related_ messages,
not onto my _consulers_ e-mail.

> Of course, this is not new on IRC, but it is new in SPAM.
>
> From: "william(at)elan.net" <william@elan.net>
> To: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>
> Cc: "Michel Py" <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us>; "Nanog@Nanog. Org"
> <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Site elimination service -:slight_smile: - I received offer by

's'p'a'm'

>
>
> >
> >
> > > Ooo, a great idea. As a result - $60 for QA, plus a chance to catch

a

> > > criminal -:). Just as _want to test network IDS - set up IRC, join

it

> into
> > > EFNet, and here you are_.
> > >
> > > Generally speaking, I think it deserves attention (this adv.).
> >
> > You're assuming that this is something very new, but it has been going

on

> > for long time on irc. If you knew right channel you can find people

quite

> > willing to DoS somebody else for $$. That it moved to spam is unusual

for

> > their types, but if you remember how many DoS attacks had been

happening

> > to anti-spam sites and services, it is clear that spammers did pay

some of

> > these criminals to do it. Probably the person responsible for this

spam is

> > kind of middle-person who had been arranging things like this.
> >
> > One note is it could be interesting to know how many emails like that

had

I've not had any.. perhaps its a targeted marketing list, have you bought
similar services in the past? :slight_smile: