WorldNIC will setup a domain without an email address using a bogus
worldnic.com email address if the owner of the domain wishes to keep his
email address private. This is a practice all registrars should consider.
And, since WorldNIC is another face of NSI, it would seem that this
practice is well within their acceptable guidelines.
Some ISPs also hide the true phone number by using a phone line at their
facilities. And others use Contact records that point to the ISP for
Admin, Billing and Technical contacts on domains they register. These are
very large registrars and they do get their domains registered without any
hassles from NSI.
Since snail mail is costly and not very cost effective, hiding the true
data from NSI will reduce the SPAM the domain owner receives as most
companies won't go the extra expense.
WorldNIC is utilizing the database for marketing purposes which is
something the old guard at NSI was totally against any ISP doing and in
fact insisted on an agreement to those terms before giving us ftp passwords
to pull down the .zone files.
-=Mike Reno=-
Hostmaster, EarthLink Network
Mike Reno wrote:
WorldNIC will setup a domain without an email address using a bogus
worldnic.com email address if the owner of the domain wishes to keep his
email address private. This is a practice all registrars should consider.
And, since WorldNIC is another face of NSI, it would seem that this
practice is well within their acceptable guidelines.
Some ISPs also hide the true phone number by using a phone line at their
facilities.
No. I think this is an extremely *bad* idea. I don't argue that the
issue of spam needs to be dealt with. But the registration of data like
email addresses and phone numbers is critical from an operational point
of view. These are needed when conatct has to be made because of an
operational failure. The purpose of whois data has become corrupt and
corrupted over the last couple of years, but we can't lose sight of it.
If you can solve the problem of accurate contact data for operational
failures, fine. Until then, the data has to be accurate, and useful. Not
bogus.
/rlj
CenterGate Research LLC
WorldNIC will setup a domain without an email address using a bogus
worldnic.com email address if the owner of the domain wishes to keep his
email address private. This is a practice all registrars should consider.
And, since WorldNIC is another face of NSI, it would seem that this
practice is well within their acceptable guidelines.
I'll tell you something.
If it's NetSol's policy to make bogus Worldnic.com addresses available for
domain registration, and as a result I can't complain to the WHOIS contacts
because of an incident of net-abuse, I am going to be on the phone to NetSol
very quickly, and I am going to complain loudly and repeatedly.
If the WorldNIC addresses forward somewhere, that's ok.
WorldNIC is utilizing the database for marketing purposes which is
something the old guard at NSI was totally against any ISP doing and in
fact insisted on an agreement to those terms before giving us ftp passwords
to pull down the .zone files.
Of course.
It seems to be the same email address each time.
Something along the lines of nosuchemail@worldnic.com
I would suspect it is read by someone on their staff unless it aliases over
to /dev/null.
Try going thru the process of registering a domain on the worldnic.com site
and you will see that both the email address and fax number are optional.
-=Mike Reno=-
WorldNIC will setup a domain without an email address using a bogus
worldnic.com email address if the owner of the domain wishes to keep his
email address private. This is a practice all registrars should consider.
And, since WorldNIC is another face of NSI, it would seem that this
practice is well within their acceptable guidelines.
Too bad that it's also a violation of the Domain Registration Agreement v4.0:
K. Warranty. Registrant warrants by submitting this Registration
Agreement that, to the best of Registrant's knowledge and belief, the
information submitted herein is true and correct, and that any future
changes to this information will be provided to NSI in a timely manner
according to the domain name modification procedures in place at that
time. Breach of this warranty will constitute a material breach.
L. Revocation. Registrant agrees that NSI may delete a
Registrant's domain name if this Registration Agreement, or subsequent
modification(s) thereto, contains false or misleading information, or
conceals or omits any information NSI would likely consider material
to its decision to approve this Registration Agreement.
WorldNIC is utilizing the database for marketing purposes which is
something the old guard at NSI was totally against any ISP doing and in
fact insisted on an agreement to those terms before giving us ftp passwords
to pull down the .zone files.
Of course. NSI expects you to uphold YOUR end of the deal, but will not
uphold THEIR end of the deal. Go read their SEC filings and you'll see
their long term plan all spelled out. In that plan, they specifically plan
to use their database of registration information for marketing and
delivery purposes.
Spammers should be investigated by Ken Starr!
Dean Robb
PC-EASY computer services
(757) 495-EASY [3279]
A fax number isn't essential. Neither the email address nor the phone number
should be optional, although even with current InterNIC registrations the
validity of such information isn't checked. A certain backbone... ok,
Sprint...
had a bunch of ARIN and InterNIC contacts listed with bogus
e-mail addys and phone numbers as recently as a year ago. Not sure if they
still do.