RE: Provider feedback Aleron=BAD!

David,

We had a circuit through AGIS, who was bought by Telia, who was then bought by Aleron.

Their billing practices were utterly terrible. Several months after Aleron aquired the network they informed us that we would now be billed an additional $250/month per /24 that we had with them!

Since we had about 16 /24s (well utilized) this was going to effectively multiply our monthly bill by several hundred percent! When I called to clarify (ie. "You're telling me that we must pay almost $1 per month per IP address?!") they basically said "yup, take it or leave it."

We left it.. They're still chasing us for the money that we supposedly owe them. The renumbering was hell, but we switched to UUnet. Slightly more expensive, but good service and no crazy extortion attempts!

    --Dan

Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:10:01 -0600
From: Tech Team1

Since we had about 16 /24s (well utilized) this was going to

And you didn't approach ARIN for PI space?

Eddy

If they were singly homed to Aleron, technically, they don't qualify.

If they were singly homed to Aleron, technically, they don't qualify.

Alex,
  Even if they weren't multihomed, they have every right
to go to ARIN to request address space (provided they could
justify >= a /20 allocation). Being multihomed only helps
build the case, but is not a requirement.

It's all on their website:

  http://www.arin.net/policy/ipv4.html#requirements

charles

RFC 2050 infers something different:

2 Allocation Framework

2.1 Guidelines for Internet Service Providers (ISPs)
This document makes a distinction between the allocation of IP addresses
and the assignment of IP addresses. Addresses are allocated to ISPs by
regional registries to assign to its customer base.

ISPs who exchange routing information with other ISPs at multiple
locations and operate without default routing may request space directly
from the regional registry in its geographical area. ISPs with no
designated regional registry may contact any regional registry and the
regional registry may either handle the request or refer the request to an
appropriate registry.