RE: Operational Issues with 69.0.0.0/8...

One would think that operators not updating filters to permit properly allocated space IS an operational issue.

True, there are some non-operational facets to the issue, but that is not sufficient to call this off-topic…

I can think of no better place than NANOG to say “Hey, some of you still have not updated your filters, I still do not have the reachability I should have.”. His problem is indicative of future problems to come as we expand the use of previously unallocated IPv4 space.

If the community cannot solve his problem, what reachability assurance do we have on any future allocations out of spaces with a similar history?

James H. Smith II NNCSE NNCDS
Senior Systems Engineer
First Call Response Center
The Presidio Corporation

One would think that operators not updating filters to permit
properly allocated space IS an operational issue.

To quote a friend "public shaming will only go so far". At some
point, you have to communicate to your customers and to the
customers of the broken networks that the vendor shouldn't be used.
This is one case where no attempt at finger-pointing could even
remotely be made; when a customer/whoever protests, offer to
conference in with $broken_network's technical people and have them
admit they're broken.

It's the same approach needed for fixing wildly random deaggregation.
Actually *talking* to people works.

I think I already pointed to the one hole that might be ARIN's
problem to fix, but to be blunt about it... I wouldn't expect NO
entry for properly activated/allocated space. Regardless if you
choose the RIPE approach, the APNIC approach, or come up with a
new one, the values returned for queries should at least
differentiate from "space over which I have authority" and
"space over which I do not have authority":

whois -h rr.arin.net 69.0.0.0/8

% ARIN Internet Routing Registry Whois Interface

% No entries found in ANS, ARCSTAR, ARIN, BCONNEX,
% BELL, CANET, CW, FGC, KOREN, LEVEL3, POC, RADB, RIPE and VERIO database.

whois -h rr.arin.net 70.0.0.0/8

% ARIN Internet Routing Registry Whois Interface

% No entries found in ANS, ARCSTAR, ARIN, BCONNEX,
% BELL, CANET, CW, FGC, KOREN, LEVEL3, POC, RADB, RIPE and VERIO database.