RE: multi-homing fixes

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From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@psg.com]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:51 PM

the point of 2xDS3 was specifically to get major services,
and not to get
every basement dual-homer. do the latter and you have the
same grazing
of the commons as we have today.

Considering the cost of a DS1, in California anyways, I might disagree with
you. DS1 is steep enough, DS3's are much too steep and sounds much too
anti-competitive. Randy, you also know the rates the rest of the planet pays
for E1's and E2's, if they can even get anything that fast. If you want a
speed-bump then don't build a speed-farging-mountain.

What you are saying is that businesses that can't afford the monthlies of a
pair of DS3's aren't allowed to be in business? Is that an official
position? How would you like it if you were in that position? Can I quote
you on that?

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Roeland, what are you talking about?

  DS1 costs are by far the lowest they have been in years,
-particularly- in California. Try living in Michigan or Illinois
sometime.

  Randy's point is that basement resellers of dedicated services
in particular are typically reselling to enough people that they have
larger address-space needs than a /24 and can qualify for and get their
own space.

  The legitimate use of a microallocation is a small, but highly
trafficed service that badly needs to be multihomed -- remember we
started this thread with a conversation about eBay and CNN.

  This is not a small provider catch all.

  --msa

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Please define who needs to be multi-homed and who doesn't.

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Please reread my original post.

  This is NOT about multi-homing. This is about microallocations.

  --msa

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  Randy's point is that basement resellers of dedicated services
in particular are typically reselling to enough people that they have
larger address-space needs than a /24 and can qualify for and get their
own space.

  The legitimate use of a microallocation is a small, but highly
trafficed service that badly needs to be multihomed -- remember we
started this thread with a conversation about eBay and CNN.

  This is not a small provider catch all.

bingo!