Is anyone on the list from the FAA? I am trying to find out if we can
connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6.
Cheers
Ryan
vacuum tubes don't do ipv6.
Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes?
Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes?
sadly it was an FAA computer system joke.
Every joke has a bit of truth. For instance, until recently (last 10 years?), O'hare's traffic controllers relied upon vacuum tube technology to perform their job.
yea, I was really referring to the ATC part of the FAA I suppose...
I'm not sure it's still true, but every time I hear it come up in
conversation (I bet owen delong would actually know...or rs) there is
a bit of:
"Well, we could migrate to something NOT VT based, but that'd take 3+
years and ... we have other priorities and ... "
wash/rinse/repeat... On a serious note though:
<http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdi.html>
(note this is the first hit in google searches for 'adsi server faa')
seems to have all manner of information on it about the systems in
question. They seem to mention VPN services, I suspect there isn't v6
access, I would have read the requirements doc, but they wanted to
send it to me as a .doc file... uhm, this is the 21st century could we
distribute this in some sort of cross-platform manner? like txt ? or
pdf? (though I hesitate to suggest pdf, what with the adobe pwnage
consistently ongoing these days)
-chris
(not a pilot, not even on tv)
Most controllers still do. I haven't seen any flat-panel displays yet in any of the
ARTCCs, TRACONs, or Towers I've visited. Admittedly, it's been a couple of
years, so, they might have changed, but, I tend to doubt they've changed all
those displays that quickly.
Owen
Yes I did read the VPN document before posting to the group but it does not give any IP address information and the e-mail address within the document is bouncing.
The new Potomac Consolidated TRACON in Warrenton, VA is relatively new
and has the newer equipment with flat-screen scopes, touch-screen
radio/phone controls, etc. It is an impressive facility.
Adam
Every joke has a bit of truth. For instance, until recently (last 10 years?), O'hare's traffic controllers relied upon vacuum tube technology to perform their job.
yea, I was really referring to the ATC part of the FAA I suppose...
er... so was he... Tower, Tracon, ARTCC are all part of ATC.
If you ever want to discuss the ATC system in detail, feel free to
ask. (Commercial, AIrplane Single Engine Land, Instrument Airplane).
I have lots of time working with ATC and have spent time in towers,
TRACONs and ARTCCs talking to them about what they do.
I'm not sure it's still true, but every time I hear it come up in
conversation (I bet owen delong would actually know...or rs) there is
a bit of:
"Well, we could migrate to something NOT VT based, but that'd take 3+
years and ... we have other priorities and ... "
There are actually advantages for CRT based scopes for ATC purposes.
wash/rinse/repeat... On a serious note though:
<http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdi.html>
(note this is the first hit in google searches for 'adsi server faa')
seems to have all manner of information on it about the systems in
question. They seem to mention VPN services, I suspect there isn't v6
access, I would have read the requirements doc, but they wanted to
send it to me as a .doc file... uhm, this is the 21st century could we
distribute this in some sort of cross-platform manner? like txt ? or
pdf? (though I hesitate to suggest pdf, what with the adobe pwnage
consistently ongoing these days)
Best thing is probably to reach out to the people at:
http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdidocs/ASDI_Contact_Information_for_ASDI_webpage.pdf
And request it.
Owen
There is a federal directive that has been in place for a number of years that requires IPV6 support for all new IT contracts/systems and also a directive to all federal agencies to support IPV6 by 2008 (See http://ipv6.com/articles/general/US_Government_IPv6.htm )
Tom
TR Shaw <tshaw@oitc.com> writes:
There is a federal directive that has been in place for a number of
years that requires IPV6 support for all new IT contracts/systems
and also a directive to all federal agencies to support IPV6 by 2008
(See http://ipv6.com/articles/general/US_Government_IPv6.htm )
And conveniently it's even getting more traction than GOSIP did.
I think there have been some federal directives to balance the budget
too. Point being that a PDF of such a directive is worth the paper it
is written on if people are inclined to just figure out a way around it.
(for those who are lucky or young enough to not remember:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOSIP )
-r
Note that the NIST IPv6 document Kevin pointed to, in the acknowledgements
section, includes the following individual who assisted:
Trung Nguyen, FAA
Joe
From:
"Ryan Finnesey" <ryan.finnesey@HarrierInvestments.com>
To:
<nanog@nanog.org>
Date:
01/04/2011 10:25 PM
Subject:
RE: FAA - ASDI servers
Is anyone on the list from the FAA? I am trying to find out if we can
connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6.
Cheers
Ryan
Bad cess to you for that! I thought I had recycled those neurons, but it
turns out I hadn't.
I suppose that cautionary tales are necessary, and GOSIP certainly is one.