RE: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund

1. Is this an organization for Domain Names for registering them
and maintaining them , and developing global policy ??

CORE is just a private company
attempting to market five domain
names. .WEB and .ART do not belong
to CORE because other companies
have developed registries for these
Top Level Domains. However CORE is
trying in the process to independantly
establish Global regulations over the
namespace and this is highly unacceptable
to most reasonable observers. They've
as much right to register .FIRM, .STORE
and the others as Internic has to do
the same for .COM, .ORG and .NET and
Alternic to act as a registry for .XXX,
.ZOO, .WEB and so on. None of them have
the right to govern the Internet.

2. If this Person has breached federal telecommunication regulations ?
if so. then must pay for the crimes as set down in the countries law.!!!!

Mr. Kashpureff is innocent until
proven otherwise. And by all
appearances the charges are all
politically motivated and not
very well grounded in legalities.
No-one actually owns the domain
names. So what the fellow did is
not illegal in the strict sense
of the word. And it really didn't
inconvenience anyone except for
those who wish to claim ownership
over a universal resource.

3. Defense Fund , if people want to help this person , this should not
be connected in anyway to this organization or this may be seen around
the world as an incorrect organization policy !!!!!!!

I think it would be wonderful if
CORE were to donate some of it's
money to the Eugene Kashpureff's
Defense Fund! I also think it would
be great if they officially endorsed
the Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund.
Unfortunately CORE is itself trying
to steal Internic's monopoly and
install one of it's own. And CORE
will in all probablility be the
next target of protest actions.

4. I am confused over the role of the CORE know because of this discussion
on a issue that doesn't concern the domain registration or GLTD policy
development.

This whole debate is central to the
debate. Internic holds a monopoly over
Domain Names. No-one else can participate
at any level. Now CORE wants to take over
as the Monopoly. Leaving everyone else
out in the cold. And by everyone else I
mean individuals, small companies, non-
profit organizatrions and most nations in
the so-called "third" world. The price
tag for a new domain name registry is a
half million US dollars (US$500,000).
Not only that CORE is a private organization
run without any public oversight under
Swiss law. It is, furthermore, *not*
supported or sanctioned by any member
State of the United Nations nor by the
UN itself.

CORE is a rogue DNS elephant like Internic
was in the past. We may have no alternative
but to stop it in any way we can. And Eugene
points the way very clearly. Will CORE stop
and reverse it's course? That remains to be
seen. If not expect more of the same protest
actions like Kashpureff's. We will have no
other choice.

TeleVirtually Yours,

Bob Allisat

Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net
PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor@wtv.net
(416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html

There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!

Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?

Marc Hurst wrote:

There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!

Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?

I didn't start this. In fact
I don't even know what these
damned mailing lists are about.
Suggest advising your collegues,
specifically to no longer Cc:
all these lists. Until then I
am obliged to reply to the
various debates. It's only
fair after all.

TeleVirtually Yours,

Bob Allisat

Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net
PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor@wtv.net
(416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html

There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!

Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?

You freedom fighter!

:wink: :wink:

    --Dean

Marc,

Marc Hurst wrote:

There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!

Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?

  Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe
that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After
sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this
onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here.

Regards,

You're kidding, right? *sigh* If this is sarcasm, then I'm seriously humor
impaired. If you can't recognise that *HE* was being sarcastic, I'd
suggest you take some lessons in humor as well.

CC's trimmed for sanity.

Edward,

Edward S. Marshall wrote:

> Marc Hurst wrote:
> >
> > There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!
> >
> > Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?
>
> Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe
> that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After
> sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this
> onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here.

You're kidding, right? *sigh* If this is sarcasm, then I'm seriously humor
impaired. If you can't recognise that *HE* was being sarcastic, I'd
suggest you take some lessons in humor as well.

  Yes I am quite serious. Sarcasm or not, a threat is a threat, and
has no place in reasonable discussions. I take all threats seriously.
Maybe you should as well.

CC's trimmed for sanity.

  Same- Same

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Regards,

Marc Hurst wrote:

There is no place for this rabble in Nanog or Iwar!!!!

Capeche? Do I have to come to your house at 2 am and kill your powerlines?

Jeff Willaims replied:

Is this a threat MR. Hurst. If so, or and implied threat, I believe
that the Justice department would be intrested in this E-Mail. After
sending this reply to you I shall do my civic duty and forward this
onto them and the FBI for further review, along with my reply here.

Better make that the RCMP Jeffer.
And *Toronto* Hydro. See we here
is in Canada. Ontario. Toronto.
And if Mister Hurst shimmies up
a pole with some wire clippers
these folks (not the FBI) should
know about it. And while you're
at it call 9-1-1... because poor
old Marc will probably come off
his cable cutting caper crisped
com cringles. See we just upgraded
the building to 200 amp service.
As in Bzzzzz_arrrrgh_ZAaaaaPP!

BTW: when the authorities leap out
of the bushes tonight to arrest
the electrocuted Marc Hurst it will
be highly important what day it
is... US Thanksgiving. As in baked.
As in Turkeys. See Eugene had his
Halloween. It's only appropriate
that Marc have his (gobble-gobble)
T-giving. Bring on the Pilgrums,
Pilgrum! Pass the cranberry sauce
my little cranberry! Except for it
will be day after. And that means
leftovers! Mmmm! Yum! A Vegetarians
dream! The picked over carcass of a
very dead bird.... yuk!

(Bob in humour mode. Okay. I'll lighten up. Just stop already,
okay? Lets's all just drop it for the time being shall we?)

TeleVirtually Yours,

Bob Allisat

Director, World TeleVirtual Network http://www.wtv.net
PO Box 191 St E Toronto Canada M6H 4E2 tor@wtv.net
(416) 534-1999 http://www.wtv.net/portfolio.html

> CC's trimmed for sanity.

  Same- Same

Hi everyone - just a reminder about the NANOG AUP. As I said in private
e-mail to several folks last week, the AUP expressly discourages
cross-posts to NANOG and other lists:

  3.Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged.

(See http://www.nanog.org/aup.html). As folks noted in the messages quoted
above, several recent postings did trim their CC: lists, but the messages
were still cross-posted to NANOG and other lists. Please note that many
non-operational issues discussed in these messages, particularly DNS
issues, are more appropriately discussed in newdom@ar.com or one of the
other DNS-specific mailing lists. You'll find a selection of these other
lists on Merit's "Resources for ISPs" Web page
(http://www.merit.edu/ipma/docs/isp.html). Thanks in advance for your
cooperation.