Private interconnects

Does anyone here happen to know if PSI is privately interconnected to any
of the big five yet? I understand that you have to be pushing in the 30
to 45 megabits per second continuosly into the backbone that you want the
private connect with. I am also told on no uncertain terms that IBM
Global net and Verio have each one or more private connects open.
And somewhat more tentatively that Digex is privately interconnected.

Feedback appreciated.

Gordon --

  Why don't you mail and find out?

  Or better yet, do some creative traceroutes. I think we covered
  traceroute -g this week :slight_smile:

  Anyone that does definitively know, is likely to be covered under
  MNDA such that legally they couldn't tell you, anyway.


  PS. and who are the big 5?

Thus spake Gordon Cook (
on or about Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 08:51:18PM -0500:

Yahoo, Lycos, Excite, Infoseek, and AltaVista??

Which is exactly the problem and why the DOJ and other regulators should
be concerned/informed. The Mutual Non-Disclosure Agreements to which you
refer Alan are not intended to to protect 'Proprietary Information' (i.e.
inventions and trade secrets) but rather to inhibit the First Amendment
Rights of many of these ISPs. The effect is to virtually eliminate good
faith bargaining between these carriers (that have used or continue to use
this MNDA vehicle) and the rest of the Internet which in turn allows for
highly discriminatory interconnection based on the theory that they can
squelch the reporting of it with the threat of disconnection, litigation
or both.

Seems to be working too - for now.


I agree. The DOJ ought to start looking at this to determine if anti-trust
laws are being violated.

I believe that they are and have been for quite some time.