Please change Mailman back to NOT force the rewrite for Reply-to

I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. Please don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into replying to the list.

Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjusted back.

I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to. Please
don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and
realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into
replying to the list.

Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on
Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public
service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjusted back.

I don't see that; I have to specifically choose to reply to the list.
Maybe someone, like me, sets their own reply-to to the list.

John Peach (john-nanog) writes:

> Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on
> Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public
> service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjusted back.

I don't see that; I have to specifically choose to reply to the list.
Maybe someone, like me, sets their own reply-to to the list.

  From the headers.

  X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14
  Precedence: list
  List-Id: North American Network Operators Group <nanog.nanog.org>

  Mutt asks me, but other mailers might not.

  Cheers,
  Phil

Yes, he said he set reply-to himself. Look at your own post, it has no such header.

I think you missed John's last sentence, Phil...

For instance, on *this* email, and *your* email, a reply goes to the
individual. I have to specifically put the list address in.

Perhaps Lynda hit someone's manually-set Reply-to header and thought
it was set by Mailman...

Best,
- --Glenn

John Peach (john-nanog) writes:
> > Normally I'd have just made this point privately, and perhaps only on
> > Futures, but since it seems to be a recent change, I'm doing the public
> > service of pointing it out, while asking that it be adjusted back.
>
> I don't see that; I have to specifically choose to reply to the list.
> Maybe someone, like me, sets their own reply-to to the list.

  From the headers.

  X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14
  Precedence: list
  Reply-To: nanog@nanog.org
  List-Id: North American Network Operators Group <nanog.nanog.org>

  Mutt asks me, but other mailers might not.

That's the reply-to my MTA puts in there:

X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14
Precedence: list
List-Id: North American Network Operators Group <nanog.nanog.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/options/nanog>,
<mailto:nanog-request@nanog.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog>
List-Post: <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
List-Help: <mailto:nanog-request@nanog.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog>,
<mailto:nanog-request@nanog.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+john-nanog=johnpeach.com@nanog.org

Patrick W. Gilmore (patrick) writes:

Yes, he said he set reply-to himself. Look at your own post, it has no such header.

Glenn Sieb (ges) writes:

I think you missed John's last sentence, Phil...

  *sigh* back to the coffee machine.

  P.

It's you, Lynda. Really. :slight_smile:

Your message, frex, did not have reply-to munged; I had to do it by hand
(since Zimbra 6 is still too stupid; I've had that bug open for over 2 years
now; maybe 7 fixes it). One reply to you did, but the rest did not.

Cheers,
-- jra

From: "Lynda"<shrdlu@deaddrop.org>

I see that someone has instructed Mailman to munge the reply-to.
Please don't do that. I was about to make a *private* reply to someone, and
realized that the setting had changed, and that I was trapped into
replying to the list.

It's you, Lynda. Really. :slight_smile:

Well, *now* I know it's not mailman, but it's not me, either. Not exactly. What I noticed was that *some* of the email to Nanog, today, had this set, but not all. I was very confused (it's not the first time I've been confused, of course).

Your message, frex, did not have reply-to munged; I had to do it by hand
(since Zimbra 6 is still too stupid; I've had that bug open for over 2 years
now; maybe 7 fixes it). One reply to you did, but the rest did not.

Yeah, Mr Peach set an evil trap for me. I'd been about to send him a private email (on something of absolutely no importance), and when I realized it went back to Nanog, was puzzled enough to check to see whether it had been changed. Cleverly, I tested replies to a couple of other emails, and as luck would have it, one was my own (and tbird has a stupid habit of knowing that if it's a mailing list, I surely meant to send it to the list), and the other two were both to Mr Peach.

Sorry for noise.

Back to making sure Geoff H believes us, and keeps right on sending the reports.