Phone networks struggle in Hurricane Katrina's wake

I'll file that comment where it belongs -- in file 13.

If a major catastrophe, albeit more human than network-related
(although lots of network-related issues here, too), isn't on-topic,
than I fail to see what is.

- ferg

operational material maybe? nah, i'm just a confused lurker, haven't seen
any of it here for a while.

-p

North American Network Operations perhaps?

Talking about the impact to networks is on-topic, talking about steps
being taken to protect or restore networks is on-topic, talking about
networking infrastructure as it relates to the public communications
infrastructure is on-topic during an event like this.

Replying to idiotic slashdot articles asking really stupid questions is
not on topic. Telling the entire NANOG reader base that you like your POTS
line and will never switch to VoIP is not on topic. Technically speaking a
human tragedy isn't even on topic.

Like I said, it might be different if there was some actual insight being
provided here. If someone was talking about some specific data relating to
the reliability of the infrastructure or otherwise something OPERATIONAL
to talk about that would be one thing, but this is not operational, this
is simply chatter. Chatter has its place, that is why people read Slashdot
and watch the news, but replacing an operational mailing list with the
slashdot commentary section and seeing what happens is not my or anyone
else's idea of a good time.

I'll file that comment where it belongs -- in file 13.

manners, paul

If a major catastrophe, albeit more human than network-related
(although lots of network-related issues here, too), isn't on-topic,
than I fail to see what is.

operational material maybe? nah, i'm just a confused lurker, haven't seen
any of it here for a while.

the steering committee has been discussing the idea of a nanog blog.
of course it would be directed to operational content and not your
daily pointer to some cartoon etc.

but, in the spirit of an open group, we are very interested to hear
what the community thinks of this. but please let's discuss it over
on nanog-futures@nanog.org. HINT!

randy

The danger here is that if real operational questions needed to be asked (like, "my router is under water, can somebody help get my network back online?" as a hypothetical example), they might get lost in the noise.

At the same time, there is plenty of information out there that makes it easier to operate networks, and it is useful if that information gets shared. And, humans experiencing an unfolding disaster, or even watching from a distance, may be under a lot of stress, and asking them not to reach out to whatever communities they're part of is probably pretty futile.

The key is striking the right balance, and that means the usual request to list members to please think before you post.

So, for those of you who have infrastructure in the affected areas, is there anything the rest of us can do to help?

-Steve

Manners, Randy.

Cheers,
-- jra